Re:Tariffs China imposes on every country
by mistermann on Friday July 20, 2018 @11:32AM
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> Of course China is playing unfairly. Not many people disagree.
There's no way of knowing for sure, but based purely on what I see on TV and read in forums, I'd say 50%++ of people seem to disagree, and some of them extremely vehemently. And in my experience, you don't have to go too far to find similarly thinking people on HN either.
This whole situation is incredibly frustrating to me because so many people seem to have such incredibly strong beliefs and certainty, yet only know, let alone understand, a tiny portion of the facts.....while accusing the other side of this very same thing, for an extra serving of delicious irony.
> The argument has been that the West should fight China as a unified bloc as opposed to the unilateral tariffs being imposed. It makes no sense to alienate Canada, the EU, Japan, and South Korea when confronting China. All of those countries (and the EU) have serious grievances and would have provided the US additional leverage.
That is "an" argument, that I've heard in very few places. Much more common is the stance that Trump is completely and unequivocally wrong on China practices and tariffs, full stop.
> The current approach is rooted in showmanship rather than strategy. It’s meant to provide a spectacle.
Facts and logic seem completely impotent, so it seems to me like a reasonable approach. Why he doesn't accompany it with some evidence like this article is a mystery and suggests that he in fact doesn't understand these things at a very deep level, but simultaneously I find that hard to believe. I wonder if we'll ever find out what's really going on in his head.
There's no way of knowing for sure, but based purely on what I see on TV and read in forums, I'd say 50%++ of people seem to disagree, and some of them extremely vehemently. And in my experience, you don't have to go too far to find similarly thinking people on HN either.
This whole situation is incredibly frustrating to me because so many people seem to have such incredibly strong beliefs and certainty, yet only know, let alone understand, a tiny portion of the facts.....while accusing the other side of this very same thing, for an extra serving of delicious irony.
> The argument has been that the West should fight China as a unified bloc as opposed to the unilateral tariffs being imposed. It makes no sense to alienate Canada, the EU, Japan, and South Korea when confronting China. All of those countries (and the EU) have serious grievances and would have provided the US additional leverage.
That is "an" argument, that I've heard in very few places. Much more common is the stance that Trump is completely and unequivocally wrong on China practices and tariffs, full stop.
> The current approach is rooted in showmanship rather than strategy. It’s meant to provide a spectacle.
Facts and logic seem completely impotent, so it seems to me like a reasonable approach. Why he doesn't accompany it with some evidence like this article is a mystery and suggests that he in fact doesn't understand these things at a very deep level, but simultaneously I find that hard to believe. I wonder if we'll ever find out what's really going on in his head.