I guess I can't personally relate since I came from Python after C/JS/Ruby/PHP and have done so not out of delusion or hype. Maybe your perception is based on having met a lot of non-erudite Python developers. Which wouldn't directly contradict the basis of the submitted article, which is that Python is an incredibly popular language, i.e. one that attracts the masses.
And how they managed to develop a unit-test framework for the standard library which coincidentally happened to be similar to the xUnit architecture?
It's a miracle that a group so dedicated to ignoring things even heard about the 'await' and 'asynch' keywords for asynchonous programming - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0492/#why-async-and-awai... - much less implement them.
That's the big irony: The very same things the senior community and GVR pan are in fact their bread and butter. They're smart and informed. But the engender an attitude of willful ignorance in their community.
GVR is smart. I've been on a pretty intense private mailing list with him. He can competently talk to both advanced functional programming and OO programming. He can talk about advanced compiler and gc subjects. He just doesn't in public, because that'd weaken the message and persona he adopts in public.
It's almost as if you are wrong in your interpretation.
It's easy to prove me wrong - where has van Rossum panned list comprehensions or the new async/await features?
Since I never claimed he did, I struggle to provide offhand examples.
See: every discussion about lambdas discredited every day by the existence of a robust self-taught javascript community.
You said Python developers as a whole were insular and as a whole it "prides itself on ignoring things".
I listed three different things which Python obviously got by looking to other languages. This is neither insular nor ignorant.
How do you reconcile your statement with my observation?
You replied with "The very same things the senior community and GVR pan are in fact their bread and butter."
I presumed this had something to do with the three items I listed, since that's how conversations are supposed to work.
Van Rossum has been pushing for async programming since at least Tulip, so it was certainly part of his 'bread&butter'. Thus, async/await are in category of things you claimed that he panned.
Now you say you didn't claim that?
Are you really just so pissed off that van Rossum doesn't like lambda that you want to besmirch the entire Python development community?
I don't think it has to, and I didn't say you HAVE to. I'm saying that you can accomplish the goal with a community that prides itself on ignoring things. Python's community is even more insular and ensconced in their opinion than editor proponents. Most Vi proponents can tell you about how they know Emacs and hate it (and vice versa). In the Python world, not knowing these things is in fact often a purity test, with GVR doing some kind of classic, "I'm just a hyperchicken lawyer" gag reel in public while in private engaging in complex debates about the very concepts he claims are inherently not understandable.