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Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by sjm-lbm on Thursday July 19, 2018 @04:12PM (#17569829)
If we still look at the messaging example, I honestly think this theory (if that really is what Google is doing) is backfiring spectacularly - the fragmented messaging standards mean that most Android users communicate using SMS, which is a laughably bad protocol in 2018. iMessage - boring old non-developed by a "startup" style-team iMessage - is so much better that I've often contemplated switching to iOS for that reason only.

The funny part is that they might be actually emulating an entire marketplace entirely within one company, but it often seems like it's a marketplace where a large entrenched lowest common denominator is the option that everyone uses and dislikes.

Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by jedieaston on Thursday July 19, 2018 @04:19PM (#17569880)
I wonder if you look at the stats whether or not SMS is actually the most popular form of communication on Android. I live in the US, where I use iMessage and SMS is the most popular, but I hear all the time on Reddit that no one uses SMS outside stupid America and everyone uses WhatsApp/Signal/(Chinese one I'm forgetting).

Google needs to pick one, no doubt, but I wonder how relevant it is that they do (Android has much of its market share outside the US).

Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by sjm-lbm on Thursday July 19, 2018 @04:27PM (#17569949)
This is a fair point, and I wouldn't be surprised if what you are saying is correct.

That said, saying "Google's startups-within-a-big-company strategy has driven most users outside of Google's chat ecosystem entirely" isn't a whole lot better.

Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by user5994461 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @06:14PM (#17570803)
It depends on the country. Some places you have to pay per SMS, some places it's free. SMS cannot be sent across borders, a big problem when traveling or living abroad.

WhatsApp is free SMS, from and to anywhere. It's an attractive offer for most of the world.

Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by nradov on Friday July 20, 2018 @12:06AM (#17572376)
SMS can be sent across borders in most of the world.
Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by user5994461 on Friday July 20, 2018 @01:35PM (#17577110)
And you'll be charged as much as $1 per SMS for doing that.
Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by Longhanks on Thursday July 19, 2018 @06:20PM (#17570847)
Can confirm, in Germany, where Android is >75%, everybody uses WhatsApp (iOS users, too).