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Re:San Francisco's zoning makes it illegal to build apartmen... by kitsunesoba on Thursday July 19, 2018 @03:57PM (#17569720)
As some one who grew up in semi-rural Appalachia, part of the reason I live in SF today is due to how badly I don’t fit in culturally in places like the Midwest. Being surrounded by those with differing opinions doesn’t bother me too much, so that’s not a problem, but the culture in these areas tends to be quite hostile to anybody going against the grain and that’s not something I care to deal with.

On a slightly different note, having lived in places where the ocean is easily visible for almost a decade now I now find thoroughly landlocked places kinda depressing in a way that I can’t explain. I don’t even visit beaches all that often but there’s something uplifting about being able to look at an ocean filled vista.

Re:San Francisco's zoning makes it illegal to build apartmen... by BeetleB on Thursday July 19, 2018 @06:35PM (#17570937)
>but the culture in these areas tends to be quite hostile to anybody going against the grain and that’s not something I care to deal with

As someone who has lived in both the Midwest and in a liberal coastal city, I almost thought you were complaining about SF being less tolerant. My experience was that while the Midwest did not have a greater diversity of opinions, they did have greater tolerance of the diversity. The obvious example (mentioned by many on HN): The bias I've seen against Republican voters (even before Trump) here. Whereas in the Midwest, I did not see any such disdain towards voters of either party.

I suspect, though, that the experience will vary depending on the city.

Re:San Francisco's zoning makes it illegal to build apartmen... by kitsunesoba on Thursday July 19, 2018 @08:36PM (#17571560)
It definitely depends on the city/town. In the small town I grew up in, you were welcome as long as you were baptist (or at least some Christian denomination) and held fairly stereotypical conservative beliefs. Publicly deviate from that and all bets are off.

I could imagine larger population centers in the area not suffering the issue as badly, but I’ve never lived in midwestern city so I have no experience to corroborate that with.