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Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by epicide on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:03PM (#17568856)
What would be better is the ability to pay for Google not to sell your data. However, the new problem would be making sure they aren't selling your data, anyway.
Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by judge2020 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:06PM (#17568890)
Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by epicide on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:13PM (#17568939)
That does not include Google's services and only includes a handful of sites.

I also see nothing about not still collecting information about you. It appears to just remove showing you some ads.

Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by propogandist on Friday July 20, 2018 @10:27AM (#17575230)
'allow us to track you across the web, so we can stop showing you ads on publishers that are in our network, once you pay for this privilege'
Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by bitmapbrother on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:35PM (#17569133)
Google doesn't sell your data. Advertisers pay Google to deliver their ads to the demographic they want to target.
Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by mattkevan on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:56PM (#17569293)
Right. They don’t sell our data, they rent us out to the highest bidder.

Much better.

Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by evv on Thursday July 19, 2018 @03:12PM (#17569411)
It is much better, considering there are companies that do actually sell our data.

"rent us out to the highest bidder" is the perfect description of Google and FB's business model. It's hard to imagine how either company could change course at this point, even if they wanted to.

Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by sharcerer on Friday July 20, 2018 @04:52AM (#17573449)
Exactly, people lovw to give a negative spin to 'rent','bid'. I see it as an exchange of value. Data, money both serve same purpose: we give them vakue,they give back. My data helps them improve their systems, make recommendation engine etc. and they give me services in return. Making sense of vast troves of data is their main competency or of any internet service. Would YouTube be relevant without recommendations? Just open incognito mode in YouTube and find out! One thing they could do in future is maybe allow users to store their data somewhere locally,and which gets updated with new recommendations,profilinf info; but that'll involve losts of code changes, engineering challenges i suppose.
Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by epicide on Friday July 20, 2018 @01:16PM (#17576929)
I think part of the issue is inequity. I don't have the requisite skills to even begin to do the calculations, but I expect that Google is getting way more (monetary) value out of me than I am getting out of their recommendations. Especially when their recommendations have often been for videos that they know I've already recently watched.

Even if there is nothing wrong with the business model, the "prices" can still be unfair. A lot of the values of these things are inherently difficult, if not impossible, to calculate (at least seemingly).

Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by SquareWheel on Thursday July 19, 2018 @05:55PM (#17570677)
How is that not better?
Re:Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor... by bitmapbrother on Thursday July 19, 2018 @05:17PM (#17570362)
Well, at least they don't let governments have free unfettered access to their users data.