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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by joshe on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:15PM (#17568432)
Here's a very straightforward study, "Evidence That Lifelong Low Dose Rates of Ionizing Radiation Increase Lifespan in Long- and Short-Lived Dogs" [1].

Two studies on beagles:

"One exposed the dogs to whole-body cobalt-60 γ-radiation."

"The other evaluated dogs whose lungs were exposed to α-particle radiation from plutonium."

For both studies, excess radiation improved their lifespans by 20-50 percent. It is a substantial beneficial effect. Above a beneficial level of radiation their lifespans shortened to the level of dogs who were not exposed at all and then to substantial reductions in lifespans.

This graph illustrates it best: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5347275/figure/...

We don't know why low radiation exposure is good, but it does seem to be.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5347275/

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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by fhood on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:22PM (#17568502)
The lack of public trust in science is a real problem, and mostly unjustified or misdirected. That said, nothing reinforces the evil scientist image like irradiating puppies.
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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by SkyMarshal on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @10:35PM (#17606546)
I don’t know, given p-hacking and reproducibility problems, science “journalism” that tends to report the results of single experiments as confirmed findings, and pay-gating of research behind for-profit journals, the scientific establishment does have some credibility challenges atm.
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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by joshe on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:25PM (#17568537)
It is pretty dark. There's even a cute beagle picture in a graph. Apparently beagles are the preferred model animal for radiation studies going back to the 1950's.
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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by fhood on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:28PM (#17568566)
I don't even have a problem with it necessarily, but they should probably use pigs. Nobody cares about pigs.
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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by drag0nballz on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:54PM (#17568786)
Pigs are actually great pets. They've been domesticated practically as long as dogs
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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by ddingus on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:23PM (#17569033)
Truth. Had pigs for a time as a kid. When people spend quality time with them, pigs respond.

They like people.

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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by wahern on Thursday July 19, 2018 @05:12PM (#17570325)
I lived on a farm for a year as a kid. The owner was missing an ear and always made sure to remind me to keep all body parts outside the hog pen.
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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by bwbw223 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:57PM (#17568803)
But that's a waste of bacon!
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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by outworlder on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:07PM (#17568896)
Then you do a controlled blind study on extending the lifespans of humans eating bacon from irradiated pigs. Wastage stopped, science advanced, lifespans extended (maybe).
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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by rm_-rf_slash on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:39PM (#17568678)
Back in the early 20th century, American doctors lobbied very hard to ensure that radium-coated water dispensers sold did indeed contain enough radioactive material to provide “health” benefits.

My, how times have changed.

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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by 13of40 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @03:31PM (#17569535)
I just got back from vacation in Germany, and while I was doing research for the trip I found a spa near one of the places I was staying that does radon therapy. From what I could gather on the web site, you sit for multiple sessions in a room with walls made of crushed radon-producing rock, reading, chatting with your neighbors, or having a snooze. Also, they ensure the radon levels comply with the German Spas Association's guidelines and you need a doctor's prescription to get treated.
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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by walrus01 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @04:20PM (#17569886)
I recall seeing a documentary about early glow in the dark wristwatches with hand painted radium dials. The painters would occasionally lick the brush tips to make a fine point. A large percentage of them died from terrible forms of lip, mouth and throat cancer.
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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by epmatsw on Thursday July 19, 2018 @07:21PM (#17571220)
Radium Girls is a fairly well-reviewed book about that: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31409135-the-radium-girl...
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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by adventured on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:15PM (#17568961)
Radiation hormesis is taught to basically all X-Ray and CT techs (and I assume lots of other specialties) when they go through school.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis

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Re:Fukushima’s nuclear signature found in California wine by trhway on Friday July 20, 2018 @03:19PM (#17578042)
Nothing like this in Belarus. Instead there are more than 10K/year of extra cases of cancer due to Chernobyl.
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