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Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues by function_seven on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:09PM (#17568393)
> I have USB-C to A, USB-C to that bizarro USB B BS 2.5 external hard disks have, USB-C to lighting, and USB-C to HDMI. End of story, no adapters to carry. YMMV.

You listed the four adapters you have, then said "no adapters". :) Just because the adapter is more than 3" long doesn't make it something else. You still have to buy it separately and carry it with you. When a machine has more than just one kind of port, you're freed up to use whatever standard cable is already connected to the projector, or came with the hard disk, or was included with your phone.

Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues by coldtea on Thursday July 19, 2018 @04:40PM (#17570062)
>You listed the four adapters you have, then said "no adapters

No, I listed 3 cables. No adapters. E.g. I had 3-4 external hard disks with the "micro USB to USB" style cable (1). I bought micro-USB to USB-C. No adapter needed (if there's any circuity inside the cable, it was there in the micro-USB to USB cable too, which is even more bulky).

Similar, I sometimes connect to an external audio interface, which has a USB B type cable (2). I bought a USB B to USB-C and am done.

Finally, I had a HDMI to HDMI cable on my old MBP. I went out and bought a USB-C to HDMI cable and just use that.

I don't need a dongle or multi-port adapter to plug the old cables in. I just replaced the old cables.

(1) https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81w%2By3Rwq...

(2) https://www.lifewire.com/thmb/a2KtBcVnreIJ_5hunhd6Ul9UOng=/7...

Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues by runesoerensen on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:51PM (#17568765)
USB-C to USB B, USB-C to lightning and USB-C to HDMI are available as cables without any adapters. Not sure what parent uses USB-C to A for, but guessing there's a USB-C cable for that too.

Otherwise the USB-C to A + USB-C to HDMI is one adapter if you get Apple's version. So maximum one adapter is required here.

Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues by coldtea on Thursday July 19, 2018 @04:41PM (#17570067)
>Not sure what parent uses USB-C to A for, but guessing there's a USB-C cable for that too.

For my external audio interface (I do computer music).

It's also common in MIDI controller keyboards -- USB from the computer to USB B on the keyboard (though I have mine setup with BT MIDI).

But also many printers use one, especially older ones.

Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues by samcat116 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @02:40PM (#17569185)
I think he's talking about replacing the entire cable to the devices.
Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues by function_seven on Thursday July 19, 2018 @03:26PM (#17569494)
Understood. I don't think that solves the issue that many adapterphobes have, though.

With my 2012 MBP, I don't need to buy extra cables for each device I have. I just use the standard cable that's included. Or the one that the conference room already has. HDMI for displays (or DP), USB for a keyboard or mouse, etc.

When all you have is the USB-C port, it's now your own responsibility to carry a cable for each situation.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think it's all that big of a deal. But I understand where complainers are coming from.

Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues by coldtea on Thursday July 19, 2018 @04:45PM (#17570103)
>When all you have is the USB-C port, it's now your own responsibility to carry a cable for each situation.

For those type of "foreign environment" (e.g. not your house or office) where you don't know what you'll meet, a single USB-C to HDMI and USB 3.0 adapter, which weights next to nothing, and is sold by Apple and many third parties (down to $10-$20) will do.

https://www.amazon.com/Pass-Through-Multiport-Supports-Throu...

Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues by function_seven on Thursday July 19, 2018 @05:02PM (#17570231)
I think I came off as too pedantic or combative in my original reply. I'm not personally bothered all that much by dongles. A little, but "eh".

I think the frustration dongle-haters feel is that Apple puts so much effort into slimming down their laptops, only to ruin it with the need to pack extra stuff. If the computer was just a few mm thicker, it would have better battery life, room for some USB-A ports, HDMI port, etc. And the backpack wouldn't need to have the dongle or extra cables in there.

Again, this is mostly academic for me. The only dongle I've ever had to use is a TB-to-GigEth one. But I was pissed the one time I forgot it and became the only person in the room unable to get on the network. Wi-Fi is way more common now, so that's not a hazard. But the other ports (USB-A, HDMI, etc.) are still in wide use, whereas USB-C is still a mishmash of incompatible cables, protocols, and connector types.

A few years from now, this whole argument will probably (hopefully) be looked at the same way the floppy drive's abandonment was in 1997.