Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues
by lkramer on Thursday July 19, 2018 @12:40PM
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I don't own a Mac, so I'm asking out of curiosity, but does this apply when it's plugged in as well?
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Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues
by JohnTHaller on Thursday July 19, 2018 @12:42PM
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With the new i9, it doesn't matter if it is plugged in. The cooling setup in the laptop is just inadequate to keep it running at speed for more than a couple minutes according to David Lee and other tech reviewers.
Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues
by infogulch on Thursday July 19, 2018 @12:52PM
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According to Lee, the i9 can't even idle without thermal throttling. I get having a chip with a higher max wattage than your cooling can support: that can still be pretty good for bursty workloads. But your cooling being so insufficient that the chip can't even idle? That's where the manufacturer is supposed to draw the line. I'm surprised that Apple even released this.
Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues
by JonathonW on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:04PM
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How do you show that it's "thermal throttling" at idle? Intel processors (at least, when managed under macOS) always downclock themselves when idle, regardless of how much headroom's available. You'll rarely (if ever) actually see the processor running at its quoted base frequency, even when plugged in.
Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues
by Karunamon on Thursday July 19, 2018 @01:24PM
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Windows too. Just watching the task manager on any recent Intel can show you that the machine spends most of its time way under its rated clock, until you really start loading it up.
Re:Some MacBook Pro users complain about throttling issues
by Ambroos on Thursday July 19, 2018 @12:42PM
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Yes, the cause for throttling is only thermal as long as your battery is over ~5% charged.
In fact, while charging performance might even be a bit lower because charging the battery generates some heat as well, further lowering performance.