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Re:55% of the US National Debt Is the Result of Repaying Deb... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday July 19, 2018 @10:23AM (#17566541)
> That is partly because of the petrodollar BTW

No, it's not. It's because Americans are massive consumers. We buy things, domestically and internationally, with U.S. dollars which in turn fuels demand for U.S. dollar-denominated assets. Attributing the dollar's hegemony to its use in commodities pricing reverses cause and effect.

Re:55% of the US National Debt Is the Result of Repaying Deb... by lrajlich on Thursday July 19, 2018 @12:17PM (#17567748)
Foreign demand for USD does in effect lower US govt borrowing costs given our situation of having a fairly large trade deficit as well. Petroleum is one example of foreign USD demand (china buys oil with USD, for example), as are central bank reserve holdings, real estate transactions in Argentina, and I'm sure there are other examples as well. These foreign demands for USD in effect lower our borrowing cost as it prevents the USD from being dumped, eg, prevent a devaluation of the USD by foreign holders of USD, which allows us to keep interest rates low and thus finance a large deficit cheaply (so the govt keeps doing it).
Re:55% of the US National Debt Is the Result of Repaying Deb... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday July 19, 2018 @12:29PM (#17567884)
> Foreign demand for USD does in effect lower US govt borrowing costs

This is correct. But petroleum trading in dollars is an effect of the dollar's hegemony, not a cause.

Every dollar transaction contributes to the dollar's network effects. But petroleum's contribution is small and overstated. Petrodollar hypotheses are closer to conspiracy theories than useful models.

The U.S. dollar is underwritten, ultimately, by American consumption. About 15% of American imports are petroleum [1][2], so it's a significant factor. But it's not special in any particular regard.

[1] https://traderiskguaranty.com/trgpeak/what-are-the-top-10-u-...

[2] https://wits.worldbank.org/CountrySnapshot/en/USA/textview

Re:55% of the US National Debt Is the Result of Repaying Deb... by yuhong on Thursday July 19, 2018 @10:26AM (#17566566)
Well, it dates back to when the gold standard ended in 1971, and then there was the oil crisis in 1973 etc.
Re:55% of the US National Debt Is the Result of Repaying Deb... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday July 19, 2018 @10:28AM (#17566595)
> it dates back to when the gold standard ended in 1971, and then there was the oil crisis in 1973

The U.S. dollar was put at the centre of the Bretton Woods system in 1944 [1] because the United States, at the end of WWII, (a) held a global nuclear monopoly and (b) was the sole industrial power not bombed to the turn of the century. The dollar thus took its central place in global trade. That, in turn, led to oil being priced and traded in dollars.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretton_Woods_Conference