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Re:Art technicians: The industry’s dirty secret, or all part... by Balero on Thursday July 19, 2018 @08:55AM (#17565745)
The music industry seems to have a pretty good solution for this.

The performer gets a cut. The lyrics writer gets a cut. The melody writer gets a cut.

I'm sure something similar could work.

I'm also recovering from just finding out that the process I thought happened behind artwork was largely false, and has more in common with renaissance painting businesses than the title artists work.

Re:Art technicians: The industry’s dirty secret, or all part... by pbhjpbhj on Thursday July 19, 2018 @11:11AM (#17567035)
And the people who only contributed financing gets a bigger cut just for already being rich.
Re:Art technicians: The industry’s dirty secret, or all part... by gergles on Thursday July 19, 2018 @11:36AM (#17567291)
Yeah, taking all the risk if the project fails is just their job for having the unmitigated temerity to be rich.
Re:Art technicians: The industry’s dirty secret, or all part... by pbhjpbhj on Thursday July 19, 2018 @11:50AM (#17567421)
So media tycoons are getting washed up, rather than getting continued returns?

No, of course not: this is why we've had ever increasing numbers of sequels, remakes, franchise films and such. Why lots of heavily promoted music is highly derivative.

Sure, some people invest in riskier stuff, on the hope of much greater returns.

What are they risking, will they suffer in any meaningful way if the project fails?

Re:Art technicians: The industry’s dirty secret, or all part... by pythonaut_16 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @11:48AM (#17567405)
They get a bigger cut because they bore the most risk and were willing to support a venture that otherwise wouldn't have had the resources to happen.

Their exact cut is generally a balance between the risk, reward, and ability of the venture to happen without them.

Re:Art technicians: The industry’s dirty secret, or all part... by pbhjpbhj on Thursday July 19, 2018 @11:58AM (#17567515)
A musician might be risking their entire livelihood; an investor risking a percentage point on their portfolio's annual profit. Bonus points if the wealth was inherited and is managed for them. Your claim just isn't true as a generality.

Risking the largest absolute financial input is not equivalent to having the highest risk unless you exclude all human value, and consider a dollar to be of equal value to all people.

Re:Art technicians: The industry’s dirty secret, or all part... by pythonaut_16 on Monday July 23, 2018 @10:23AM (#17592956)
I'm not talking about personal risk, I'm talking about risk of loss in absolute value, i.e. the investor is risking more capital so they claim a bigger share of the reward.

If the musician was able to provide enough capital/resources on their own by risking their entire livelihood they'd have no need for an investor and could take the entire profits of the venture for themselves.

I'm not making a moral judgement here, I'm just saying that it's a fairly straight forward logic as to why people who "only contributed financing get a bigger cut". The OP is wrong to claim they get a bigger cut because they're already rich, they get a bigger cut because they're risking more capital in the venture. It is secondary that them being rich means they have more capital available to take risks.

Re:Art technicians: The industry’s dirty secret, or all part... by sushid on Friday July 20, 2018 @01:48AM (#17572779)
I mean it's also the fact that there are plenty more musicians willing to "risk their entire livelihood" that bring their price down.

Bigger musicians will fetch high prices and in some cases, take on the financial "risk" (almost none since they're a superstar) themselves.

Also, its not like a single bad song is going to ruin a career. Clearly you haven't heard an album from the front to the back if you think that.

Re:Art technicians: The industry’s dirty secret, or all part... by megy on Thursday July 19, 2018 @07:57PM (#17571401)
Right, but does the drummer bought in get a cut? Or the bass player? No, if they aren't part of the band.
Re:Art technicians: The industry’s dirty secret, or all part... by emodendroket on Thursday July 19, 2018 @09:20AM (#17565969)
It depends how you see everyone's contributions here... in some cases it seems a little bit like an album being attributed to EMI Records.