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Re:The Absolute Denial of Shit by quotemstr on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @03:02PM (#17561166)
There is a difference between organic shifts in language use over time and forced shifts made by an influential few motivated by some misguided urge to improve society by limiting the range of thought.

Think of the word "gun". The image that entered your mind just now was not a water gun. It was a weapon, the kind of device the gun emoji used to depict and now no longer does.

The people forcing this kind of change want you to associate the concept of a gun with a water gun or other toy, and they think that by changing your though pattern this way, they'll make society safer.

This is terrifying and totalitarian idea. Once you buy into the idea that you can force a change to the language to achieve your desired social aims, there's no intrusion into private life that you will be unable to justify.

Re:The Absolute Denial of Shit by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @03:29PM (#17561392)
> The people forcing this kind of change want you to associate the concept of a gun with a water gun or other toy, and they think that by changing your though pattern this way, they'll make society safer.

Very Orwellian. In 1984, that was the point of Newspeak - to make it impossible to express certain ideas.

Re:The Absolute Denial of Shit by ekphrasis on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @04:27PM (#17561789)
Yes, but as the author of the article argues, the emoji icon of an eggplant has been culturally interpreted with a different semiotic meaning. The same could very well happen with the emoji icon of a watergun (despite the emoji’s semiotic shift), indicating a symbolic duplexity in the meaning of a handgun.

I.e., if you choose to mean a handgun when writing a watergun, the emoji’s meaning can change.

Re:The Absolute Denial of Shit by mc32 on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @05:12PM (#17562101)
This very much reminds me of the CCP banning words online and then people coming up with new “synonyms” to bypass the ban, then that gets banned and new phrases words take its place and it goes on...
Re:The Absolute Denial of Shit by smhost on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @05:01PM (#17562027)
Yeah, such a tragedy for all those native emoji speakers
Re:The Absolute Denial of Shit by ben174 on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @05:14PM (#17562114)
> native emoji speakers

Anyone born in the last dozen or so years.

Re:The Absolute Denial of Shit by retox on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @09:29PM (#17563374)
See also the recent change to the Google salad emoji to remove eggs and make the salad 'vegan friendly'. https://www.cnet.com/news/google-removes-egg-from-salad-emoj...