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Re:Should We Loosen the Restrictions on Psychedelics? by nothrabannosir on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @04:30AM (#17556369)
> 'Legalizing hard drugs' is kind of a theoretical issue because I think it's hard for us to contemplate what actual widespread use would look like, and also hard for us to consider how regular people behave.

If we keep our focus on psychedelics, as per the article, then: no, not really. The Netherlands have had OTC, no-questions-asked, fully commoditised psychedelics available for decades.

Some got put back on the ban list in dec 2008, others still available as before. This should offer plenty actual, real world, practical data.

No need to guess or contemplate!

> Maybe we might want to do an experiment in a city somewhere to see, but even then, I feel the results would be highly politicized, as they are with 'harm reduction clinics' ... it's hard to get at the truth of it.

How about an entire country, for over two decades? :)

Re:Should We Loosen the Restrictions on Psychedelics? by stef25 on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @05:57AM (#17556785)
Holland currently only has truffles OTC, afaik?
Re:Should We Loosen the Restrictions on Psychedelics? by jrnvs on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @06:09AM (#17556870)
Correct. Source: I'm Dutch. Related article: https://www.rnw.org/archive/amsterdam-tourists-mad-about-tru...
Re:Should We Loosen the Restrictions on Psychedelics? by 69132 on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @06:43AM (#17557060)
Holland also allows mescaline containing cacti such as San Pedro and Peyote.
Re:Should We Loosen the Restrictions on Psychedelics? by TomMarius on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @06:00AM (#17556810)
Yes, also Portugal.
Re:Should We Loosen the Restrictions on Psychedelics? by fifnir on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @10:32AM (#17558739)
Not really, it's just decriminalized!

right?

Re:Should We Loosen the Restrictions on Psychedelics? by cgb223 on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @06:29PM (#17562575)
yes its just decriminalized

I was in Lisbon a few years ago, and on basically every (major/touristy) street corner there are people trying to sell you drugs

If they spot a tourist, they'll even go so far as to follow you down the street heckling you to buy some

In a legalized country it would be sold by regulated stores, where the supply is known where it originates from (i.e. Head Shops in CA as of the 1st of this year)