I don't see how a first generation product with similar performance and superior latency to a mature technology (nand) that took decades to develop has no substance. The second generation of Optane is coming out this year and it's going to be an order of magnitude better. It's just a matter of time until nand is obsolete.

If Optane is Intel-only, it is not going to replace NAND.

You and mtgx both mention Optane performance is "not even close to dram." I'm interested in if you have found anyone who has benchmarked the DIMM version with respect to actual DRAM. I see several sites that have benchmarked the Nvme version but this has additional hoops that the DIMM version would not have to jump through and so I've been on the lookout from Anandtech or another reputable source for actual numbers.

> Optane is almost entirely hype, with no substance.

As it has been from the very first announcement. Intel is being very misleading marketing Xpoint as "memory". It's not even saying it's "close to memory" now. They're literally calling Xpoint memory (as in the same meaning we use for RAM).

Considering Xpoint has much lower performance than RAM, I'm starting to believe that maybe the FTC should intervene over "false advertising". It's just too bad the U.S. doesn't have as strong laws as Europe does for false advertising.