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Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by Someone1234 on Sunday July 15, 2018 @07:16PM (#17537638)
Sales numbers lag behind consumer satisfaction.

Meaning people may still buy this MBP but decide that their next computer won't be a Mac, this means the "lost sale" could be four or five years into the future.

Plus there's the magnifying effect of "influences." Are technical people still going to recommend to their less technical family members a Mac?

My point isn't "Apple is doomed!" rather, any company, has to look beyond yesterday's sales numbers to broadcast tomorrow's sales. Hopefully Apple has the data to know if these changes do more good than harm.

Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by etatoby on Sunday July 15, 2018 @08:32PM (#17537910)
> Are technical people still going to recommend to their less technical family members a Mac?

I've done that for decades. Not anymore. More or less after 10.6.8 the software started getting more and more fiddly, slower, and less intuitive, and the hardware has been getting more fragile and less versatile. I just recommend Lenovo with Windows 10 and/or Ubuntu, depending on the person. Xubuntu for me.

Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by eddieroger on Sunday July 15, 2018 @10:08PM (#17538279)
Returns don't lag like that. If people were that unhappy with the keyboard, they'd take the Mac back. Apple can read HN or the like all day, but if laptops are leaving the door, then they have no reason to change anything.
Re:2018 MacBook Pro Review by nkkollaw on Monday July 16, 2018 @09:08AM (#17540980)
Very true. I did buy the late-2016 MBP, that I swore that was the last time I'd buy anything from Apple (because of the trouble and hypocrisy).