People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard

Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by durzagott on Saturday July 14, 2018 @04:05AM (#17529346)

I'd say your scale is heavily mis-calibrated and demonstrates nothing more than your personal pessimism. As an alternative:

  A scale of 1-10:
  - 1 is the minimum threshold for civilisation
  - 10 is the most advanced civilisation the universe has ever known

We are a 10.

Unless you know of any other civilisations out there we can measure ourselves against?

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Re:People Aren’t Dumb, the World Is Hard by pixl97 on Saturday July 14, 2018 @08:30AM (#17530070)

Eh, your scale is off. Let's surmise, only in this case, that the universe is sentient, and knows all civilizations. This universe could then judge where we are on the scale of have made.

The issue here is you have conflated humanity with the universe. Simply, we can't know, and it may be unknowable to any civilization where they are on the scale in an absolute measure, only a relative one.

On a relative scale, we are a 10. On an absolute one, we are no where close.

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