George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of self-driving cars

Re:George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of ... by yters on Friday July 13, 2018 @09:00PM (#17528134)

Brilliant! Pure AI is a dead end street. Turing machines cannot increase their minimal Kolmogorov sufficient statistic, so will always be unable to learn more information than is put into them originally. Humans are the only known information creators, and so only hybrid human/AI systems can work in the real world.

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Re:George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of ... by jrace on Friday July 13, 2018 @09:27PM (#17528230)

>Humans are the only known information creators

What do you think whale-sounds and bird-songs are?

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Re:George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of ... by yters on Saturday July 14, 2018 @03:10PM (#17531833)

If whale-sounds and bird-songs are information, and human intelligence is the only thing that can create information, then the conclusion is whales and birds were created by some kind of intelligence.

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Re:George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of ... by jrace on Sunday July 15, 2018 @05:37PM (#17537231)

So it is your belief that whales and birds and all other animals were created by humans?

And if so, then why would a human not be able to create an AI that is capable of creating information?

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Re:George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of ... by yters on Saturday July 21, 2018 @12:05PM (#17582425)

I think they were created by God. God is a meta-intelligence, an intelligent being that can create other intelligent beings. Our intelligence is only capable of creating mechanical beings, which are necessarily not intelligent.

The second question does not follow. If intelligence is defined by the ability to do something non-algorithmic (i.e. create information), then AI can never be intelligent.

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Re:George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of ... by rileyphone on Friday July 13, 2018 @10:10PM (#17528389)

Obviously entropy!

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Re:George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of ... by bufferoverflow on Saturday July 14, 2018 @04:49AM (#17529456)

> Humans are the only known information creators

No. Evolution created RNA, DNA, all kinds of animal languages, both sound- and chemical-based.

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Re:George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of ... by yters on Saturday July 14, 2018 @03:10PM (#17531836)

Any proof this is true? Sounds like conjecture to me.

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