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Re:How the BBC and ITV are fixing delays on World Cup live s... by skellera on Friday July 13, 2018 @06:28PM (#17527410)
I believe they were referring to number of receivers of the broadcast for scale. Distance from the tower being the limitation.
Re:How the BBC and ITV are fixing delays on World Cup live s... by laumars on Friday July 13, 2018 @07:00PM (#17527594)
That's "just" a problem with unicast though. Lots of different media houses are working on getting multicast support over the internet, by which point IP streams will behave a lot more like OTA's one-to-many relationship.

I couldn't say how close they are to getting that working - nor if it even is possible - because I don't work on that specific side of things. But I do know there used to be multicast networks over the internet back in the 90s (IIRC David Bowie even streamed one of his concerts over it) so it strikes me as a solvable problem.

Re:How the BBC and ITV are fixing delays on World Cup live s... by isostatic on Saturday July 14, 2018 @03:17AM (#17529239)
Bbc did multicast 20 years ago, and with most uk households on one of half a dozen isps it would be possible.

However multicast struggles over wifi and 4g.

A CDN edge box in each exchange would probably solve the problem.

Re:How the BBC and ITV are fixing delays on World Cup live s... by dmurray on Friday July 13, 2018 @06:35PM (#17527467)
Yeah, for events like the World Cup "scale" means sending the same broadcast to millions of receivers. That's already an unusual requirement, though. Major sporting events constitute the biggest use case, and perhaps even those will require something different in future if the next trend is something more interactive: VR or user controlled camera angles.
Re:How the BBC and ITV are fixing delays on World Cup live s... by untog on Friday July 13, 2018 @06:56PM (#17527575)
> sending the same broadcast to millions of receivers. That's already an unusual requirement, though

Broadcast television isn't particularly unusual, surely. Millions of people watch live, primetime TV every day.

Re:How the BBC and ITV are fixing delays on World Cup live s... by blowski on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:45PM (#17528058)
In the UK, typical peak usage is around 5 million for the same program at the same time. The World Cup was more than 30 million.
Re:How the BBC and ITV are fixing delays on World Cup live s... by untog on Friday July 13, 2018 @11:17PM (#17528604)
Sure, but my point was that five million receivers is "millions of receivers", and is an everyday occurrence.
Re:How the BBC and ITV are fixing delays on World Cup live s... by isostatic on Saturday July 14, 2018 @03:15AM (#17529228)
This is a legacy way of consuming material. More and more are using on demand first.

However the use case of live sport - especially football in the uk - is massively different. This means the platforms have to scale to 20 million plus live streams (that's say 100tbit and 5 second latency) for a once in 4 year event.