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Re:A Fight for Men’s Rights in California Courts by johnny313 on Friday July 13, 2018 @02:25PM (#17525428)
This comes off like an attempt to turn a set of perceived slights into an issue of discrimination. "Men's rights" groups mostly seem to be a reaction against attempts to address institutionalized misogyny. Why is it hard to acknowledge that society has been and still is biased in favor of white men? (disclaimer: I am a white man)
Re:A Fight for Men’s Rights in California Courts by naasking on Friday July 13, 2018 @02:30PM (#17525496)
I find this sort of reply irritating. Feminists rightly point out that the fact that female discrimination is far worse elsewhere in the world does not somehow diminish our obligation to address female discrimination here.

So the only way your objection carries any weight is if men (even white men) are not discriminated against at all, ever, at any level of our society. Do you actually believe that to be the case? If so, then I suggest you do some reading.

If not, then we have just as much an obligation to address challenges that men uniquely face as we have to women for the same.

Re:A Fight for Men’s Rights in California Courts by manfredo on Friday July 13, 2018 @02:32PM (#17525508)
I don't think trying to eliminate policies that discriminate against men is denying that men have privileges. Simply because one group suffers from discrimination more than another shouldn't be a justification to turn around and discriminate the latter. I am Hispanic myself, and I would cringe just as hard at a "Latinx only" sign as I would a "Whites only" one.
Re:A Fight for Men’s Rights in California Courts by johnny313 on Friday July 13, 2018 @03:04PM (#17525752)
You make a fair point. I don't mean to imply discrimination is appropriate in any context, just that groups in power can sometimes frame threats to their privilege as examples of discrimination as a way to resist change [0].

[0] In the Name of Equal Rights: “Special” Rights and the Politics of Resentment in Post–Civil Rights America https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1540-5893....

Re:A Fight for Men’s Rights in California Courts by manfredo on Friday July 13, 2018 @03:25PM (#17525913)
But this is clearly not even remotely the case in this story. All of the defendants covered in the story had explicitly discriminatory policies. What motivated you to write that groups seeking to eliminate inequalities that harm men "mostly seem to be a reaction against attempts to address institutionalized misogyny" in response to this story? Why did you feel this was remotely relevant to bring up in response to explicit discrimination?
Re:A Fight for Men’s Rights in California Courts by sir_bearington on Friday July 13, 2018 @03:59PM (#17526188)
Ultimately I think a lot of the hostility towards men's rights is counterproductive for people that want gender equality. This hostility had made a lot of people believe that feminism only purports to strive for equality and in reality only strives to advance the interests of women, often at the expense of men (as opposed to the real definition of feminism, which is gender equality for all).
Re:A Fight for Men’s Rights in California Courts by asdsa5325 on Friday July 13, 2018 @10:12PM (#17528394)
Your logic is "white men have some privileges, therefore white men have absolutely no prejudice against them and absolutely no problems in society". This is sexist, racist, bad logic.