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Re:Should I Learn Java in 2018 by beagle3 on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:08AM (#17522179)
Author says Java was relatively new in 2007 although introduced in 1995... I’m not sure what is meant.

Java is many things: the language? The vm? The ecosystem?

I keep hearing that Java is fast, and indeed hotspot is but every system I encounter that’s written in Java is sluggish.

I keep hearing that Java lost its abstractwidgetfactoryfactoryfactory fetish, and I think it’s improved in the last 15 years, but it’s still horrible.

My view:The language is meh; acceptable syntax, reasonable performance. The ecosystem is bleh - only if you really love bureaucracy.

Re:Should I Learn Java in 2018 by acdha on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:19AM (#17522250)
> I keep hearing that Java is fast, and indeed hotspot is but every system I encounter that’s written in Java is sluggish.

Counterpoint: ElasticSearch and Solr are excellent, reflecting many hard years of work by the Lucene team. (I say that as someone who last wrote serious amounts of Java in the 90s)

Java’s problems are cultural and the experience really depends on whether you’re over in enterprise land with that insatiable complexity fetish or somewhere else where people are serious about getting anything done. The big risk to me these days is Oracle since they’re prone to milking their IP now at the expense of its long-term future.