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Re:Homemade spacecraft reaches 100,000 ft, films the whole way by bigiain on Saturday October 02, 2010 @10:24PM (#1751909)
There's a distinction (which admittedly might only be in my head) that a balloon _requires atmosphere_ to work, which means it can't get into _space_, since buoyancy in the surrounding air runs out by the time you get to "space" where there _is_ no "surrounding air".

'course that's no more a technical definition of "space" than "100km" or "the Karman line"...

Still, that's a cool project!

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Re:Homemade spacecraft reaches 100,000 ft, films the whole way by jacquesm on Saturday October 02, 2010 @10:32PM (#1751926)
Well, that depends on what you mean by 'work', if with work you mean go up for ever then the answer is a clear 'no'.

However the 'envelope' for just about any balloon that is not built with extreme altitude in mind lies within rather than on top of the atmosphere.

A balloon will go up until the pull of gravity is balanced by the lift, and in most balloons that point will not be reached until the balloon bursts from a lack of counter-pressure by the atmosphere.

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Re:Homemade spacecraft reaches 100,000 ft, films the whole way by dedward on Sunday October 03, 2010 @11:39AM (#1752873)
Why should they burst? Certainly a little rubber balloon will - but the difference between a good helium balloon and vacuum isn't much - a thin foil layer would contain it without bursting.
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Re:Homemade spacecraft reaches 100,000 ft, films the whole way by cromulent on Sunday October 03, 2010 @01:32PM (#1753125)
The bursting is a fairly good automatic cut-down. If it doesn't burst, it will ceiling at some point, and then zoom around until something happens.

You might get some more height with a stronger balloon (or a larger balloon with less gas) but you want the flight to be over in a reasonable time if you ever want to get the payload back.

So then you have to use nichrome wire or something as a cutdown, just something else to worry about. 100k-ft is pretty good.

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