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Re:The open-plan office is a terrible, horrible, no good, ve... by watwut on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:56AM (#17515228)
Gotcha, thanks.

> people are running/playing around and yelling like children at the office. It's not too uncommon for startups to have Nerf guns or something.

I hate this sort of environment combined with expectation to stay late. It always seems to me that if people would work instead of playing, we might not have to stay late. And that we are not working as much as we brag about, because people play a lot.

Re:The open-plan office is a terrible, horrible, no good, ve... by tombert on Thursday July 12, 2018 @11:38AM (#17515644)
I agree. I typically come in at about 9:15am, leave anywhere from 7pm-8pm, and it's not because I'm some great worker. It's because I need to finish up the sprint and too much crap is happening around the office.

I don't know that I wouldn't work late even if I had a private office, but I do think that I'd be able to accomplish more.

Re:The open-plan office is a terrible, horrible, no good, ve... by watwut on Thursday July 12, 2018 @11:55AM (#17515799)
I found that when I am really working and focus on producing quickly, I get tired much sooner. As if, there us some max I can achieve during day, faster or slower.

Of course then, I am tired also in the evening and that limits what I can do in the evening. (If I am too tired to code, I am also too tired to play logical game or learn something.)

Re:The open-plan office is a terrible, horrible, no good, ve... by nambit on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:58PM (#17517568)
I come in at 10-11am and leave at 4-5pm (including an hour of lunch). The rest of my work I complete from home. There's no need to be in the office for all of your "workday".