Re:Notorious ‘Hijack Factory’ Shunned from Web
by ThrustVectoring on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:58PM
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I'm not sure this is a great idea - the "bad guys" have access to writing nastygrams to your ISP, too. You have to be careful creating the mechanisms for this, otherwise you could have a situation like YouTube has: it's trivially easy to report a video for containing your copyrighted content and then receive the ad income from it, so a lot of videos will get frivolous claims attached to them.
Re:Notorious ‘Hijack Factory’ Shunned from Web
by oliwarner on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:12PM
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Large ISPs in many countries are already required to log connection metadata. This could trivially be used to verify botnet activity, even identity CnC nodes.
I'm sure there is still scope for abuse, but letting ISPs ignore abuse reports isn't working out well for the rest of the internet either.
But yes, maybe attaching some real personal perjury liability —unlike the watered down DMCA abuse liability— might be a good idea. Good network admins know what abuse looks like and have logs to corroborate.
Re:Notorious ‘Hijack Factory’ Shunned from Web
by ThrustVectoring on Thursday July 12, 2018 @06:04PM
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YouTube's system doesn't even require a DMCA complaint AFAICT, it just requires you to tell YouTube that you own the copyright.
And everybody on the Internet knows this. When somebody brutes your login page or SSH server, what do you do? Nothing. It should be trivial to report IPs and timestamps back to ISPs. Many ISPs are already required to log connections at some level (destination and port) so this stands to verify the abuse report. Get a number of these shoot through for a single customer (IPs are unimportant at this point), and it's time for a nasty conversation.
The machinery to make this work already exists. It's the ISP that's the problem. Threaten non-compliance of continued abuse (or a lack of reduction in botnet activity, whatever) with disconnection to the parent peer, so the ISP takes it seriously, and we'll see reporting rates rocket.
Monitored at local level (FCC, Ofcom, etc), per existing ISP complaints.
But yeah, no ISP is going to do this without serious threat of action.