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Re:MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for ... by BugsJustFindMe on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:20AM (#17514149)
This complaint always strikes me as trolling of the highest order. As though a 2018 laptop should definitely be designed to accommodate software structured for the limitations of 1970. In 2050, when the world has moved to direct neural interfaces, vi trolls on HN will still be saying "but my escape key!"

I've never failed to hit the software escape key on my 15. Not one time since the past rev was released. What is that, six months? Not once in six months. I just put my finger in exactly the same place as I would on any other keyboard and it always works.

Re:MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for ... by publicfig on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:35AM (#17514323)
I really think that dismissing this complaint as "trolling" is odd. The escape key is used in a lot of applications, not just vim. It's used to cancel out of actions, it's used to often dismiss modals, it's used across a lot of software for a lot of purposes. And I'm personally someone that misses the key often enough that I wish it was still there. And the escape button on the touchbar is actually not at the same place as it is on other keyboards, which makes me think you've maybe not used one of these new touchbars and are arguing just for the sake of it.
Re:MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for ... by BugsJustFindMe on Thursday July 12, 2018 @07:00PM (#17519327)
> And the escape button on the touchbar is actually not at the same place as it is on other keyboards, which makes me think you've maybe not used one of these new touchbars

Nonzero finger width easily makes up for the difference. You don't have to hit the center of it to register a touch. In fact you don't actually need to touch it at all.

Edit: Video proof https://streamable.com/ao18b

> which makes me think you've maybe not used one of these new touchbars

You were saying?

Re:MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for ... by nordsieck on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:39AM (#17514377)
> As though a 2018 laptop should definitely be designed to accommodate software structured for the limitations of 1970.

Hardware should be designed to accommodate the software that is actually being run on it, regardless of when it was first written.

Re:MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for ... by ybrah on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:37AM (#17514356)
Anyone who uses a keyboard to navigate their computer (most software professionals worth their salt) hit the escape key often enough to warrant it as a complaint. Try not using your mouse for your computer
Re:MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for ... by evgen on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:55AM (#17514567)
Anyone who uses a keyboard to navigate their computer and has not already re-mapped their keyboard to put esc into a more RSI-friendly location is going to be paying for this choice in a decade or so...
Re:MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for ... by froindt on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:18AM (#17514842)
Unfortunately in a locked down computer environment, remapping isn't always an option.
Re:MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for ... by ybrah on Thursday July 12, 2018 @04:51PM (#17518484)
I use an ergodox with escape mapped to a very easily accessible location. On my laptop keyboard, I have caps lock mapped to escape.