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Re:Drugs that kill off old cells may limit a body’s aging by CyberDildonics on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @04:26PM (#17501811)
I think you will need to source all those claims, all the evidence I've seen is to the contrary.

For 1. you can see MMA fighters cut weight and not 'lose all their muscle mass' so that one seems to have some pretty stark evidence against it. Not to mention that body builders routinely go on bulking and cutting cycles specifically to put on more muscle.

Re:Drugs that kill off old cells may limit a body’s aging by bitwize on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @05:11PM (#17502218)
MMA fighters and bodybuilders do lose significant muscle mass during their cutting phase, not to mention dehydrating the shit out of themselves. It's not a healthy way to live, and it's not undertaken by these athletes unless strictly necesssry.
Re:Drugs that kill off old cells may limit a body’s aging by CyberDildonics on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @07:50PM (#17503250)
Fat goes first. Saying that a theoretical body builder who isn't even trying to make a certain weight loses 'significant' muscle is not something that's backed up by even common sense. If that were true, how does anyone end up with more muscle after they lose weight?

> It's not a healthy way to live, and it's not undertaken by these athletes unless strictly necesssry

That's not the discussion, this has nothing to do with whether fasting destroys muscle mass.

Do you have anything to back up your claim?

Re:Drugs that kill off old cells may limit a body’s aging by ramblerman on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @02:02AM (#17504756)
MMA cutting is a terrible example.

They try to rid their body of as much water as possible to lower their weight.

When we say fasting for health it usually means lots of water, but no calories.

Re:Drugs that kill off old cells may limit a body’s aging by CyberDildonics on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @09:44AM (#17506775)
You are completely missing the point.

It isn't that MMA cutting is healthy, it is that fat is burned first, not muscle. Fasting for a day here and there isn't going to make someone 'lose all their muscle mass'.

Re:Drugs that kill off old cells may limit a body’s aging by madeuptempacct on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @04:46PM (#17501996)
I am too lazy to reply to everyone making stuff up, but you went way, way overboard. Bulking is eating a calorie surplus, cutting is eating at a light calorie deficit, it has nothing to do with fasting.

When fighters cut just before weight in, they do so to make sure that they make their weight class cut off or they can't compete. This has nothing to do with fasting - they are forced to do it to stay in weight class, but at the very top of it (being as heavy as possible is overall a boon in the ring).

Re:Drugs that kill off old cells may limit a body’s aging by CyberDildonics on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @05:05PM (#17502153)
I'm not sure what exactly you are saying. Fighters rapidly lose fat weeks out from the fight and they don't lose muscle (then they lose water weight, which is irrelevant here).

The idea that you think 'fasting' loses muscle mass is an idea that is not backed up by any evidence. Fasting isn't a diet, it is about when you eat.

Also, you didn't source anything. Don't you think maybe the dozen people replying to you might be less likely to be 'making stuff up?'