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Re:Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Containe... by rch on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @09:38AM (#17497929)
I'm not particularly fond of how OpenShift is put together, but it does seem like you're overreacting somewhat.

CoreOS is pretty well aligned with Fedora, so it makes sense for it to go there organizationally. And while it's inevitable that everything in Red Hat's orbit will have a clear path to OpenShift (and probably Ansible), I'm hopeful that this won't add any noticable overhead to CoreOS/CL itself.

Re:Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Containe... by hardwaresofton on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @09:54AM (#17498078)
I took a look at the coreos fedora project[0] as listed by you and others, but it looks immensely experimental right now. From the FAQ[1]:

> Fedora CoreOS is under active development and there are currently no downloads available. However, you will be able to download the images from one canonical location via the CoreOS and Fedora websites. The discussions around this development will happen on our community channels.

I actually really like Ansible -- it plays well with other tools, scales from small to large infrastructure management needs, and has great documentation with enough escape hatches to make hacky (but functional) solutions possible. I have less of a problem with ansible and more being forced to move more and more into tools that push me towards OpenShift when it doesn't make sense for me.

[0]: https://coreos.fedoraproject.org

[1]: https://coreos.fedoraproject.org/faq

Re:Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Containe... by brightball on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @10:06AM (#17498181)
Yea, I'll 2nd that. Ansible is immensely pragmatic and capable. Been very happy with it.
Re:Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Containe... by pas on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @10:11AM (#17498221)
It's slow and hard to debug :( (at least in my experience - setting up OpenStack with it)

I used to prefer Chef, but then with CoreOS the dream started to come true, just pack up everything in a container, and 12-factor configure it and that's it, and now I just can't wait for k8s to eat the world, and we'll be back full circle with helm instead of yum/apt.

Re:Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Containe... by lima on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @11:17AM (#17498818)
Red Hat uses Ansible to set up the Kubernetes/OpenShift cluster itself.
Re:Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Containe... by amorousf00p on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @10:39AM (#17498474)
Not ad-hominem but what do you know how to do? Package other peoples stuff in a config + install and then run scans against it?
Re:Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Containe... by pas on Friday July 13, 2018 @05:38PM (#17526949)
I don't get what you mean, could you please elaborate a bit?
Re:Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Containe... by amorousf00p on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @10:28AM (#17498384)
Fedora: Only if you really like breakage and have staff to deal with integration.