Half of ICOs Die Within Four Months After Token Sales Finalized

Re:Half of ICOs Die Within Four Months After Token Sales Fin... by chrisco255 on Monday July 09, 2018 @05:37PM (#17493643)

Streaming money. What if you were paid by the second instead of by the hour? Or your bank account filled up live as you worked or performed services? Or companies that provided services to other companies were compensated in the same way? Businesses live and die by cash flow. What if cash flows instantly 24/7?

What if you were able to do micropayments efficiently on the web?

What if many contractual agreements between parties were settled on blockchain, and monies held in escrow disbursed automatically based on pre-programmed rules?

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Re:Half of ICOs Die Within Four Months After Token Sales Fin... by throwawayqdhd on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @04:52AM (#17496357)

> Businesses live and die by cash flow. What if cash flows instantly 24/7?

Business payments are delayed not because there is an underlying fault in the payment systems (wire transfers are nearly instantaneous, at least within the country), but because businesses sit on payments.

A new technology isn't going to solve this problem. Businesses like to hold onto invoices as long as they can get away with it.

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Re:Half of ICOs Die Within Four Months After Token Sales Fin... by jopsen on Monday July 09, 2018 @06:29PM (#17493927)

None of the what the crypto-currencies promise is impossible to do with a few independent central vendors implementing that same standards for payments and contracts.

And centralized solutions will always be faster.

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Re:Half of ICOs Die Within Four Months After Token Sales Fin... by chrisco255 on Monday July 09, 2018 @07:13PM (#17494184)

Centralized databases are faster. Centralized consensus is dangerous for the same reason that a dictatorship is dangerous. The organization in charge of said solution would exercise dramatic control over the execution of said code. You need not look very far into the past to see egregious examples of organizations abusing their centralized position over data. I shudder the thought of a centralized actor having the same precise control over all monetary transfers.

Meanwhile, the banking system itself is not centralized. It's quite slow to settle monetary transfers from bank-to-bank.

Right now, Lightning Network is live on BTC's chain. It's instant, near free, and yet it's decentralized.

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Re:Half of ICOs Die Within Four Months After Token Sales Fin... by jopsen on Monday July 09, 2018 @07:49PM (#17494356)

Look at how certificate transparency is done.. a few servers using same protocol is all it takes.

Most crypto-things have this idea that they servers validating transactions have to be compensated and that anyone can do this validation. (validation == mining)

Having a few well regulated entities do all the mining is a centralized system that can be verified externally. Without all the cost of decentralization. And with the added security that validators are trusted entities.

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Re:Half of ICOs Die Within Four Months After Token Sales Fin... by kvakva on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @05:37AM (#17496567)

There are rarely completely centralized consensus. You have different sides which for better or worse create consensus together. You have a law, prosecutors, activists. Sure you have corrupt politicians which centralized power a lot but this would is a problem for crypto space as well because of the people will access crypto through a classical business which can lobby for own interest.

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Re:Half of ICOs Die Within Four Months After Token Sales Fin... by atomical on Monday July 09, 2018 @07:56PM (#17494382)

A settlement of a crypto payment is much faster than a credit card payment in terms of settlement time. And a credit card payment is centralized.

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