Re:Nissan Admits Internal Emissions-Test Results were Falsified
by wlll on Monday July 09, 2018 @11:27AM
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> especially for diesel
There's another way of looking at this, and that's that maybe diesel just isn't clean enough for consumer cars?
Re:Nissan Admits Internal Emissions-Test Results were Falsified
by bloomthrowaway on Monday July 09, 2018 @11:33AM
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maybe, but its cleaner in other ways. It burns hotter and more efficiently, creating less CO2 and some other byproducts by a decent margin. It produces more SO due to fuel sulfur content, and more NOX which is produced because of high temperatures. So its a trade-off.
But at this point the limits are just politicians pulling levers. There's not enough science involved to debate which pollutants we care about and what the lowest realistic limits are.
Re:Nissan Admits Internal Emissions-Test Results were Falsified
by mikelward on Monday July 09, 2018 @11:39AM
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Forbes says that it would have cost an extra $430 per vehicle for VW to meet the NOx requirements fairly. That's hardly the same as regulations resulting in no combustion-powered cars.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lianeyvkoff/2015/09/28/all-to-s...
Re:Nissan Admits Internal Emissions-Test Results were Falsified
by cryoshon on Monday July 09, 2018 @11:29AM
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>Its like cities in Cali forcing citizens to make drastic changes to conserve water, when over 90% is used by farmers
yes, this is a common process by which private costs are offloaded onto the public so as to increase the private benefits of exploitation of public goods.
it's legalized theft.
Emissions regulations have made great progress in cleaning up auto emissions, but now politicians keep squeezing the numbers without realizing some of the limits are becoming impossible. So everyone starts cheating, because otherwise we would have no combustion powered cars.
Insane irony is that ships and even some buildings burn horrifically impure "bunker fuel" or wood, and with car emission limits so low these sources are the vast majority of harmful emissions. Its like cities in Cali forcing citizens to make drastic changes to conserve water, when over 90% is used by farmers.