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Re:Why the Girl Scouts Are Learning to Pick Locks and Hack C... by watwut on Sunday July 08, 2018 @03:16PM (#17485572)
This is downvoted, but I half agree with sentiment. I don't like glorification of hacking either and outright hate when lack of respect for boundaries (at mildest hacking is exactly that), willingness to cheat or harm others are treated as proxy for tech aptitude. That is all too common in our culture.

Through, here it is likely to be framed more as game and not real thing. When they shoot water pistols, they are not learning to kill either.

Re:Why the Girl Scouts Are Learning to Pick Locks and Hack C... by zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC on Sunday July 08, 2018 @09:07PM (#17487266)
> lack of respect for boundaries (at mildest hacking is exactly that), willingness to cheat or harm others

One of those doesn't belong on this list. Lack of respect for boundaries in this context is really a lack of respect for authorities, and that is an extremely important thing for a society to have, and has absolutely zero intrinsic connection to willingness to cheat or to harm others, very much to the contrary: Only if you are willing to challenge authorities will you successfully counter authorities harming others.

You can learn how to subvert systems and at the same time how to use that skill to the benefit of society, be it by building systems that aren't so easily subverted where that is appropriate, or by defending people who unjustly are accused of things they didn't do due to unjustified trust in the reliability of an unreliable system.

Re:Why the Girl Scouts Are Learning to Pick Locks and Hack C... by watwut on Monday July 09, 2018 @01:25AM (#17488148)
I really meant and observed lack of respect towards others not just autorities. Reading other people's messages for lols or making cruel jokes on them did not challenged autorite - mostly powerless randoms. There is such a thing as awesome challenging autorities, but throwing temper tamtrum because autority told you not to be jerk to other kids is not that. These types were more likely to frame innocent person they disliked then stand up to defend someone else.

None of that has anything to do with kids toy hack exercises. Which are exactly that and are fine as long as they are fun.

Re:Why the Girl Scouts Are Learning to Pick Locks and Hack C... by someone454 on Sunday July 08, 2018 @03:41PM (#17485753)
Seems to me its a form of cargo-cult development: its what the ‘great’ hackers did, so we must do it to become a great hacker too.