Re:Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue
by Uberphallus on Friday July 06, 2018 @08:31AM
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Jeez, the group is really really inside the cave, does anyone know if that was their intention or if they did so trying to escape from the flood?
The group of teenagers escaped from their supervisor into the cave without his permission. The supervisor went to look for them, they all got trapped there by the flood. Someone found their shoes in front of cave entrance.
Re:Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue
by liberte82 on Friday July 06, 2018 @05:53PM
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That's the first I heard this piece of the story. Source?
Re:Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue
by forgot-my-pw on Friday July 06, 2018 @03:30PM
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How did they manage to get so deep just by themselves? Maybe easier to get down than to go back? :(
Re:Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue
by throwaway2016a on Friday July 06, 2018 @08:30AM
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That is a great illustration! Thank you.
Only thing that would have made it better is if the cross sections showed water levels.
Re:Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue
by sandworm101 on Friday July 06, 2018 @09:14AM
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Dont take it too literally. Cave maps, paticularlythose under water, are hand-drawn. They cover key features needed for navigation but are not considered accurate for dimensions. Travel time means far more than accurate distances where underwater currents get involved. This is a large part of the digging problem: lining up the eyeballed drawing with an exact spot on the surface.
Re:Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue
by schiffern on Friday July 06, 2018 @09:09AM
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Cross-section: https://twitter.com/JamesWorldSpace/status/10151317727433687...
Another version: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes...
Re:Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue
by dayaz36 on Saturday July 07, 2018 @12:04AM
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Why do people assume everything Elon does is a marketing/PR ploy? People said the same thing when Elon put his car in space. Pretty pessimistic view of humanity imo if you think people can't do something out of moral conscience. Not sure what Tesla has to do with saving Taiwanese out of a cave and boring company wont be operational for years.
Re:Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue
by KyeRussell on Saturday July 07, 2018 @10:43AM
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You're really fighting against yourself by bringing up the space Tesla—an example with absolutely no humanitarian justification. The choice of a Tesla as a 'test' payload was 100% a marketing exercise and I do not know how anyone could argue otherwise (or if they have). There was no scientific or logistical benefit to using a Tesla, and in the bazar universe where it is, SpaceX's marketing machine spruced it well.
Re:Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue
by dayaz36 on Sunday July 08, 2018 @01:20AM
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cool
Re:Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue
by senectus1 on Friday July 06, 2018 @09:23AM
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Entrepreneurs often do do this sort of thing.
for example Andrew Forrest (Australian Mining Billionaire) has offered and assisted many times for disasters (bush fires, MH370 serach etc).
Seems to be something that driven guys just do
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Re:Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue
by sandworm101 on Friday July 06, 2018 @09:02AM
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I found his comments about them just walking out through a bouncy castle tube, or his flip remark about being good at digging holes, less than useful. He clearly doesnt understand the forces and dimensions involved. This isnt sunny/dry california.
Can you explain why? I think it's a smart idea, except getting the tube that size/strength of course...
Re:Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue
by sandworm101 on Friday July 06, 2018 @09:20AM
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Such a tube would need to be pressurized to the depth of the deepest water. It would also block the flow of water through pinch points, deepening and accelerating that water. Where is this magic tube? Then imagine trying to handle this pressurized tube in not-deep and/or dry parts of the cave. It is pure fantasy.
A man died bringing an oxygen tank through this cave. Pulling 10,000lb rubber tube through that same hole?
Off-topic: I really like the BBC's illustrated map of the cave. For a static image, really gives a lot of info about the scale and severity of the situation: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/146FC/production...