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Re:Why I Don't Love Gödel, Escher, Bach by jvagner on Thursday July 05, 2018 @01:08PM (#17464908)
perhaps https://www.lighter.world can help...

i live with my own temptations in this realm, so i'm not coming from a "i've done it" POV, but from a "this is where i lean when i'm pretty sure i need to give it a real go" one.

Re:Why I Don't Love Gödel, Escher, Bach by copperx on Thursday July 05, 2018 @03:40PM (#17466179)
The site is sadly broken on Firefox.
Re:Why I Don't Love Gödel, Escher, Bach by jvagner on Friday July 06, 2018 @03:50PM (#17474568)
Seems okay on my Mac OS X, Firefox versions 60.x & 61.0.1