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Re:Phantom traffic jams, and why lane expansion isn’t really... by sjwright on Monday July 02, 2018 @04:30AM (#17440110)
> That's a quantifiable social benefit.

Only if you know how the occupants in these additional vehicles were transiting previously. If they were previously carpooling, or if they moved away from a good (but slightly less time efficient) public transport option, then the social benefit would be somewhere between minimal and nil.

Re:Phantom traffic jams, and why lane expansion isn’t really... by chii on Monday July 02, 2018 @05:58AM (#17440466)
But presumably the new occupants compared their existing old travel method, and deemed the new one better. If the old method had some "social benefits", it must mean that the old method's social benefit came at a cost in benefit to the occupants. Otherwise, they would not have chosen the new method!
Re:Phantom traffic jams, and why lane expansion isn’t really... by JumpCrisscross on Monday July 02, 2018 @09:52AM (#17441578)
> the new occupants compared their existing old travel method, and deemed the new one better

You’re leaving out the taxpayers subsidising their commute.

Re:Phantom traffic jams, and why lane expansion isn’t really... by sjwright on Monday July 02, 2018 @11:11AM (#17442307)
Just because an individual makes a particular choice when given the opportunity, doesn't mean it must be a social benefit.
Re:Phantom traffic jams, and why lane expansion isn’t really... by sjwright on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @11:16PM (#17455066)
I love how I was voted down for that comment, one which ought to be obvious on its face. There are plenty of choices people make that don't benefit society as a whole. That isn't controversial.
Re:Phantom traffic jams, and why lane expansion isn’t really... by sjwright on Friday July 06, 2018 @12:25AM (#17468817)
Rather than vote me down, perhaps you could reply instead? Use your words.