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Re:Homes 'Earn' Minimum Wage or More in Almost Half the Nati... by tardo99 on Sunday July 01, 2018 @07:25PM (#17438284)
I know you guys are downvoting me but I don't give a shit. I used to see similar graphs for Incline Village (in Tahoe). But suddenly after 2008, the party stopped. The reason was that prices finally got to a level where people honestly just couldn't afford to bid higher.

For prices to double again in the Bay Area, you need to start seeing engineers earning $400k per year. It isn't going to happen.

Oh and by the way I have a house in Oakland that I bought in 2000 that has like quadrupled so I already won the lottery. I'm just trying to help others out here.

Re:Homes 'Earn' Minimum Wage or More in Almost Half the Nati... by woolvalley on Sunday July 01, 2018 @07:30PM (#17438314)
Thats pretty funny, because sr engineers at big tech are making close to $400k!

Rents and prices have disconnected about 2 years ago. Rents are flat or slightly down while housing prices have kept on going up.

Re:Homes 'Earn' Minimum Wage or More in Almost Half the Nati... by tardo99 on Sunday July 01, 2018 @07:34PM (#17438328)
I do work in tech, and while that kind of comp exists, it's the exception and not the rule. There was a posting today here on HN about a database of salaries that more or less directly contradicts your assertion here.

Oh and your entire comment is based on the premise that tech isn't in a bubble (hint: it is).

Re:Homes 'Earn' Minimum Wage or More in Almost Half the Nati... by usaar333 on Sunday July 01, 2018 @10:52PM (#17439028)
> Rents and prices have disconnected about 2 years ago. Rents are flat or slightly down while housing prices have kept on going up.

And therefore one would think prospective buyers would look at this and conclude buying doesn't make economic sense. (I did at least: https://medium.com/@usaar33/why-you-shouldnt-buy-a-home-in-t...)

Re:Homes 'Earn' Minimum Wage or More in Almost Half the Nati... by sidlls on Sunday July 01, 2018 @09:57PM (#17438849)
A small fraction of engineers have compensation that high, certainly not enough to really impact house prices that dramatically.
Re:Homes 'Earn' Minimum Wage or More in Almost Half the Nati... by djajshgsjja on Sunday July 01, 2018 @10:47PM (#17439016)
It might be surprising given how hot the market is, but the # of homes actually changing hands is pretty small. Prop 13 provides a strong financial incentive for homeowners not to sell. With relativey few homes going on the market compared to the area’s population, the salaries of an unusually small slice of the income distribution can affect the average home price.
Re:Homes 'Earn' Minimum Wage or More in Almost Half the Nati... by usaar333 on Monday July 02, 2018 @10:52AM (#17442109)
Agreed that lack of selling is a huge issue. That said prop 13 isn't the only disincentive (and a relatively weak one - homeowners older than 55 can transfer their basis to a cheaper property). The other issues are:

1. (older residents) Capital gain taxes. If your house is up by $1.5M, selling incurs capital gains on $1M ($500k excluded). That's nearly $300k (20% of value) in capital gains taxes owed -- a huge hit to move to a cheaper place. And if you stay in place and die? Your heirs don't have to pay cap gains at all.

2. (newer) Mortgage tax deductability grandfathering. New buyers have $750k mortgage interest be deductible; old buyers get $1M. Guess you aren't moving until you bought recently!

Re:Homes 'Earn' Minimum Wage or More in Almost Half the Nati... by TomVDB on Monday July 02, 2018 @12:20PM (#17442964)
How many dual income families make that much?

Looking at the sold houses in my neighborhood and the families that move in: a lot.

Re:Homes 'Earn' Minimum Wage or More in Almost Half the Nati... by edoceo on Sunday July 01, 2018 @08:38PM (#17438581)
Oakland is still full of gangsters and crime, everyone stay away for your own safety.
Re:Homes 'Earn' Minimum Wage or More in Almost Half the Nati... by joeblow9999 on Sunday July 01, 2018 @09:43PM (#17438794)
yes, please stay away. Do not come to Oakland it sucks and you shouldn't move there.