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Re:Can Elon Musk and Tesla Reinvent the Way Cars Are Made? by baybal2 on Saturday June 30, 2018 @12:58PM (#17431567)
>This. too many Tesla cults shilling online. The fact of matter is experienced and established brands are coming out with superior quality EV.

I'm afraid to say that today even Chinese do.

For the under $30k niche, Chinese automakers completely aced the process.

On other hand, all Chinese "Tesla killers" to be, came out with really awful cars which, according to what first owners say, are prone to rapid disassembly after few minutes of driving in bad road conditions.

Re:Can Elon Musk and Tesla Reinvent the Way Cars Are Made? by JackCh on Saturday June 30, 2018 @02:41PM (#17432093)
Chinese cars, not built to the safety standards demanded by other nations or built to the bare minimum at best, tend to be man-killers not Tesla-killers.
Re:Can Elon Musk and Tesla Reinvent the Way Cars Are Made? by baybal2 on Saturday June 30, 2018 @02:57PM (#17432189)
In regards to performance, it is not a problem at all to make a car with Tesla like horsepowers to weight ratios. But after doing that, you still somehow need to make a driveable car.

Few people who drove Nio ES8 for example can't hold expletives for the suspension setup, and extreme body flexing that makes doors to not to close after a single rough ride. Were not for their NDAs, Nio's creditors would've been calling back their loans now.