Re:Mathematics Shows How to Ensure Evolution
by carapace on Friday June 29, 2018 @05:38PM
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You seem to know what you're talking about, and I appreciate you taking the time to reply to me, but I'm afraid I don't understand how what you're saying contradicts what I'm saying. Maybe we're talking past each other. I'm saying two things:
1. Meta-evolution happens as part of evolution, there's a logical "strange loop" there.
2. We see the kinds of macroscopic evolution among multicellular species that we do (such as the "choice" of having separate species, or the "choice" of having death-and-birth) not because it's somehow impossible to be otherwise, but because these modes of life have meta-evolutionary adaptive advantage.
When I contrast "Darwinian" vs. "Lamarckian" evolution I mean that the former does not have "inheritance of acquired traits" while the latter does. I might be using the term "Darwinian" in a non-standard way and I apologize if so.
When I'm talking about not being able to differentiate the two modes or kinds of evolution in the case of microorganisms, all I'm saying is that there's one process that has aspects of both modes.
Isn't what you just described about LGT obviously "Lamarckian" in the sense that a bacteria acquires a trait from "eating" a plasmid, incorporating it into its own genome, then dividing and passing the trait on to each offspring? I guess what I'm asking is, what do you mean by Darwinian?
1. Meta-evolution happens as part of evolution, there's a logical "strange loop" there.
2. We see the kinds of macroscopic evolution among multicellular species that we do (such as the "choice" of having separate species, or the "choice" of having death-and-birth) not because it's somehow impossible to be otherwise, but because these modes of life have meta-evolutionary adaptive advantage.
When I contrast "Darwinian" vs. "Lamarckian" evolution I mean that the former does not have "inheritance of acquired traits" while the latter does. I might be using the term "Darwinian" in a non-standard way and I apologize if so.
When I'm talking about not being able to differentiate the two modes or kinds of evolution in the case of microorganisms, all I'm saying is that there's one process that has aspects of both modes.
Isn't what you just described about LGT obviously "Lamarckian" in the sense that a bacteria acquires a trait from "eating" a plasmid, incorporating it into its own genome, then dividing and passing the trait on to each offspring? I guess what I'm asking is, what do you mean by Darwinian?