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Re:We Should Be Building Cities for People, Not Cars (2016) by Someone1234 on Thursday June 28, 2018 @02:44PM (#17419417)
You're taking away a mode of transport some disabled people depend upon, you have to take their needs into account while doing so. Simply adding ramps and slapping ADA stickers onto everything isn't an actual answer, just a convenient way to simplify the problem.

If you go from heavily vehicled areas to large pedestrian areas where vehicles are banned, you've gone from one extreme to the other. In both cases disabled people are left behind.

> The fact is that us able-bodied people need spaces that we can enjoy too.

I thought that was everywhere, including nature.

Re:We Should Be Building Cities for People, Not Cars (2016) by jschwartzi on Thursday June 28, 2018 @04:28PM (#17420204)
I agree.

The thing I'm concerned about is that reintroducing cars into these areas is a trickle opening onto a floodgate in terms of causing us to backslide into car-centrism. And by your argument ADA compliance becomes a good excuse to erase all the pedestrian- and cyclist-only areas and replace them with "good old" city streets again. It effectively becomes an argument for people who want car-centric infrastructure only to disguise their desire and hide behind the disabled to accomplish their goals.

What I'm wondering is if there's a way to accommodate without using cars? In a market we could provide some scooters or other motorized transport that's more compatible with the market's layout.

Re:We Should Be Building Cities for People, Not Cars (2016) by yardie on Thursday June 28, 2018 @06:40PM (#17421055)
I fail to see how making a place pedestrian friendly is one extreme. Are you saying the disabled are only able to move around by car? This will bother some of my disabled friends who have to rely on unreliable buses, too narrow sidewalks, and other city failures.

Also, a mobility scooter is a perfectly acceptable form of transportation in pedestrian areas.