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Re:How not to structure database-backed web apps: performanc... by gldalmaso on Thursday June 28, 2018 @09:55AM (#17416843)
> But wasting a month tryig to write native Sql queries can hurt your project a lot more.

Unless it would be the first contact a developer has with SQL, I really don't see how difference in time taken to query the database with an ORM vs SQL would be anything more than a couple of minutes, maybe an hour if you really have a hard time with it or your data model is really convoluted.

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Re:How not to structure database-backed web apps: performanc... by blattimwind on Thursday June 28, 2018 @10:12AM (#17416991)
This really depends entirely on what your application is doing and how it generates and processes queries. Some things are just annoying to solve without an ORM / "query builder" / SQL-AST (unless you write a small ORM yourself).
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