Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key...
by ehnto on Thursday June 28, 2018 @12:11AM
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People do it when subconsciously or consciously trying to paint a picture with stereotypes. So if someone wanted to illustrate they were talking about a testosterone filled ego driven 20 something, they might include the term young male manager in their descriptor.
Is it right or wrong? Probably not great. I don't do it. But I get how it happens. Probably not nefarious, just a little tonedeaf.
Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key...
by monktastic1 on Thursday June 28, 2018 @12:22AM
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True -- though when I think about it, I imagine them using a more specific male adjective like "bro" or "dude." "Young male manager" would have triggered a "why are they mentioning male?" and yet "female" slipped under my radar until another comment called it out.
Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key...
by ehnto on Thursday June 28, 2018 @12:52AM
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I wonder if that's because you have a stronger stereotype for male than for female in your mind (not to suggest that you use it, just that you have one or are aware of what others might have as their stereotype). I don't have strong generalizations either way but especially not for the term female, which is why I never understood when people got uppety about it to begin with. Now that I understand some people have a negative stereotype attached to their usage of the word I understand why people get annoyed. But it is a bummer as its all so personal and subjective that no matter how careful or sincere you are you could tread on someones toes and convey the wrong message, as I suspect the parent comment has done.
Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key...
by ralusek on Thursday June 28, 2018 @12:41AM
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Does it count as slipping under the radar if you've both called it out?
Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key...
by mehrdadn on Thursday June 28, 2018 @12:31AM
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> Why mention gender at all?
I don't know, but if that's the intended question then it'd make sense to ask that (which someone else already did, so I recommend upvoting if you're interested).
The question whose point I don't get is the one I responded to. It seems absurd to ask "why did you do X but not Y?" when doing Y would've only left you more dissatisfied.
Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key...
by monktastic1 on Thursday June 28, 2018 @10:52AM
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Ah. I interpreted it as "perhaps you prefer to identify genders in general, but that's belied by not using it here."
Not saying OP did this, but one can imagine using adjectives to hint at competence or lack thereof here.
FWIW I have no dog in this race. Parent comment just got me thinking.