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Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by tyfon on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @04:50AM (#17406689)
Microsoft _still_ does not let me turn off "Basic usage data/telemetry" being sent to them.

I tried to call them about it a month ago and they hung up on me. The one computer in my house running windows is still blocked with this popup.

Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by walterbell on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @05:01AM (#17406730)
You need Win10 Enterprise LTSB, even Pro is not enough to get out of Microsoft telemetry capture, including crash dumps (memory with sensitive info), keystrokes, screen grabs.
Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by TheCapeGreek on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @05:29AM (#17406827)
It used to be that Pro was enough when you could still turn the telemetry off (I seem to remember that being a thing in W10's early days, correct me if I'm wrong). But in the end, why should the user have to spend even more for a feature set that they'll never use to just protect their privacy? Greed and dark patterns are not acceptable.
Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by tyfon on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @05:33AM (#17406847)
Can you even buy enterprise as a private person? All I can see on their webpage is "request a quote" and the form requires a business name.
Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by cpburns2009 on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @10:02AM (#17408160)
When I was researching this for personal use a while ago it looked like there should be a way to get a subscription for Windows 10 Enterprise E3 for $7/mo/user via third-party sellers [1] (CSP?). It looks like you can buy a subscription from CDW [2] (I've never used them).

[1]: https://blogs.windows.com/business/2016/09/01/windows-10-ent...

[2]: https://www.cdw.com/product/windows-10-enterprise-e3-from-cd...

Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by walterbell on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @05:37AM (#17406861)
There's a 90-day trial, could be useful in a VM: https://www.howtogeek.com/273824/windows-10-without-the-cruf...
Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by hadrien01 on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @05:26AM (#17406819)
Windows 10 Enterprise is enough to disable tracking, you don't need LTSB for that (for those who don't know, LTSB/LTSC is a version of Windows without "modern" apps, like the Store or Edge)
Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by criddell on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @09:27AM (#17407914)
> You need Win10 Enterprise LTSB

The won't sell it to you. I asked about it a Microsoft store and they had no way of selling it to me.

Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by cpburns2009 on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @09:45AM (#17408038)
Please correct me if I'm wrong because Microsoft licensing is convoluted. I think the procedure is to acquire a Windows 10 Enterprise license, and then you install LTSB instead of the standard enterprise edition.
Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by walterbell on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @10:40AM (#17408479)
It may also be available via MSDN, subject to MSDN terms.
Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by reitanqild on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @05:24AM (#17406812)
My guess: Will probably stay that way unless they suffer a major breach an this data starts showing up in wrong places.
Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by aembleton on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @06:29AM (#17407075)
Can you block it using a Pi-hole?
Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by tyfon on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @07:38AM (#17407360)
Of course, I have long since added this list[1] to my openbsd firewall. That is besides the point, I can (and do) also block all crap in my browser via extensions. That doesn't make the crap they are pulling legal and I refuse to click "accept" on the popup that is currently locking the machine from being used. If it does not change soon I will reclaim the license money via microsoft directly or court.

All my important machines run operating systems that do not have spyware built-in.

[1] https://github.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocker

Re:Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies u... by kardos on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @11:16AM (#17408798)
That'll work while they continue to use dedicated hosts (eg, telemetry.microsoft.com) to collect the exfiltrated data. With a single update they can shift that collection stream to another host (windowsupdate.microsoft.com, or a skype host, etc) such that blocking it would break other stuff