Re:Amazon Workers Facing Firing Can Appeal to a Jury of Thei...
by s73v3r_ on Monday June 25, 2018 @01:38PM
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I did, but that's largely because the manager who put me on the PIP was himself on a PIP, and was fired before mine was up.
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Re:Amazon Workers Facing Firing Can Appeal to a Jury of Thei...
by 783629gasd on Monday June 25, 2018 @01:47PM
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You're lucky. A PIP is basically HR creating a paper trail to justify your eventual termination (in case of lawsuits, etc).
Re:Amazon Workers Facing Firing Can Appeal to a Jury of Thei...
by toomuchtodo on Monday June 25, 2018 @02:11PM
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Once the PIP starts, start asking coworkers you trust if they'll provide a reference and looking for a new gig. Your chances of coming back from a PIP are non-zero, but at the same time exceedingly low. You'll expend less effort moving to another gig with a chance you'll land with a better skilled manager (assuming your manager is the problem, and not you). You might even get a salary/comp bump out of the move.
This advice is more valid in our current, exceedingly tight, labor market and less so when unemployment goes up again (be prepared for a longer search, network more aggressively, and have a longer emergency fund runway).
Re:Amazon Workers Facing Firing Can Appeal to a Jury of Thei...
by jopsen on Monday June 25, 2018 @04:14PM
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I wouldn't b surprised if lots of people comes back from a PIP. But I would be surprised if my co-workers were bragging about that time they survived a PIP.
ie. it's likely we believe the odds to be low, because it's not something people talk about.
Re:Amazon Workers Facing Firing Can Appeal to a Jury of Thei...
by 783629gasd on Monday June 25, 2018 @04:42PM
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As a manager, I know for a fact that PIPs are almost never survived in any organization I've ever been in.
Re:Amazon Workers Facing Firing Can Appeal to a Jury of Thei...
by stygiansonic on Monday June 25, 2018 @01:49PM
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Wow, that's quite Kafkaesque. Would be interested to know more about this, if you were willing to explain.
Nonetheless, glad to hear you survived a PIP.
Re:Amazon Workers Facing Firing Can Appeal to a Jury of Thei...
by s73v3r_ on Monday June 25, 2018 @05:44PM
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There really isn't much else to the story. I had been at the company longer than that manager, and the person who took over for him liked me.
I will also admit that the PIP did point out some attitude problems (I had been getting a bit surly), and so I did genuinely attempt to correct that. It's something I do struggle with at times.