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Re:Model predicts we're the only advanced civilization in th... by adrianN on Monday June 25, 2018 @12:53AM (#17389974)
Roughly a century after discovering powered flight, we are pretty much capable of building spaceships that can reach Alpha Centauri in roughly 100 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_pulse_propulsion

Single digit percentages of the speed of light are not that hard to achieve, but would probably be sufficient to launch some von Neumann probes (or generation ships) and start colonies.

Re:Model predicts we're the only advanced civilization in th... by labster on Monday June 25, 2018 @12:59AM (#17389994)
You are the children of a dead planet, EarthDeirdre, and this death we do not comprehend. We shall take you in, but may we ask this question--will we too catch the planetdeath disease?

-- Lady Deirdre Skye, "Conversations With Planet"

Re:Model predicts we're the only advanced civilization in th... by dirkc on Monday June 25, 2018 @05:14AM (#17390967)
Now I want to play Alpha Centauri all over again!!
Re:Model predicts we're the only advanced civilization in th... by Pxtl on Monday June 25, 2018 @11:40AM (#17393245)
Yes, but the question is can we launch and protect a payload for 100 years that can self-reproduce where it arrives? Otherwise all our ships can do is explore a tight X-lightyear sphere around Earth.

Can we propel a ship that can sustain 100 years of human (or AI) life and protect it from cosmic rays and provide it with enough equipment to build a self-sustaining colony on arrival?

Re:Model predicts we're the only advanced civilization in th... by adrianN on Monday June 25, 2018 @01:00PM (#17393871)
Right now we'd have a hard time getting someone to the Moon, but there don't seem to be fundamental laws preventing us from building generation ships.
Re:Model predicts we're the only advanced civilization in th... by Pxtl on Monday June 25, 2018 @04:00PM (#17395332)
It's not a limitation in physical laws, but the sheer scale of the undertaking that I wonder about.

Like, is the mass required for a self-sustaining interstellar generation ship, with all the required shielding needed to handle high-velocity interstellar travel (blasting through the interstellar medium an appreciable fraction of c means absorbing a crapload of high-energy particles, and the occasional micrometeorite that can't be detected until it's too late that hits the ship with the energy).

For example, hitting a little 10 gram rock at 0.1C would be a kinetic energy transfer in the gigajoules - like a small (1 kiloton) nuke.

So we've established our ship needs to have armor that's thick as hell. In order to make that economical, it must be huge. Also, in order for it to do useful work there, it needs to contain factories worth of machinery.

The sheer scale of this ship would be staggering. And then that raises the question: is there enough energy available to propel such a thing?

Re:Model predicts we're the only advanced civilization in th... by fhars on Monday June 25, 2018 @07:11AM (#17391409)
Getting there is easy. Stopping at the destination is the hard part.