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Re:Convergence to Kubernetes by lkrubner on Sunday June 24, 2018 @08:02PM (#17389026)
Docker is a dangerous gamble and you can get more of an automated build system, with less devops effort, from Terraform and Packer. Avoid containers and stick with real servers “baked” by Packer:

http://www.smashcompany.com/technology/docker-is-a-dangerous...

Re:Convergence to Kubernetes by MPSimmons on Sunday June 24, 2018 @09:49PM (#17389421)
There's no reason you can build containers in an automated, routine fashion and use those to run your applications and services on. You don't have to run containers like joeblow/randomservice - start with Alpine from the Alpine maintainers (or CentOS or whatever) and write a custom dockerfile to build your stuff.
Re:Convergence to Kubernetes by icebraining on Monday June 25, 2018 @05:43AM (#17391072)
Docker aside, your arguments regarding fat binaries are kinda off mark. Python has been able to package an app and all of its dependencies into a single zip file - which is what a jar file really is - since before Go and Clojure even appeared (see PEP 273). Single-file packaging in JS is also common - very much used for browser deployment.

But "let's change languages because we don't have a reliable way to copy more than one file" sounds a bit insane to me. My solution was Debian packages, not Docker, though.

Re:Convergence to Kubernetes by RVuRnvbM2e on Sunday June 24, 2018 @09:56PM (#17389443)
Why would I want the overhead of a hypervisor when I can just use the process isolation features built into the kernel?

Re: your essay

I couldn't quite tell but is it correct to say that you consider Docker a "dangerous gamble" because Docker Inc. may cease to exist in its current form at some point?

Re:Convergence to Kubernetes by barrkel on Monday June 25, 2018 @08:48AM (#17391957)
I've not been impressed by docker outside of the local development experience (primarily, creating sandboxes and avoiding installing stuff on the main OS, and not having the latency of starting up a VM).

This discussion is about Kubernetes though. Docker is mostly only incidental to Kubernetes. It's a much better thought through system than anything I've seen come out of the Docker world. Docker images are adequate; Dockerfile as a build mechanism for images is deeply flawed, requiring so many kludges and duct tape to accommodate shared dependencies, rebuild on upstream change, shrinking after building, etc.

Hopefully a better system for building images to run on Kubernetes will crop up.

Re:Convergence to Kubernetes by lsh on Sunday June 24, 2018 @09:22PM (#17389342)
that was a good read, thankyou