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Re:Show HN: Material Dashboard – Free Admin for Bootstrap 4,... by samirillian on Friday June 22, 2018 @10:53AM (#17374397)
I hear this critique a lot but I don't often see alternative paradigms/examples offered.

I don't think material design is very pretty either and I'm very interested in alternatives, if only I knew what they were!

Re:Show HN: Material Dashboard – Free Admin for Bootstrap 4,... by reaperducer on Friday June 22, 2018 @11:43AM (#17374847)
Material a little Playskool for my tastes.

But then I still think the original iPhone icons were awesome. Even the little television for the YouTube app.

Back then, icons communicated far more information than most icons today, which have become little more than bland corporate logos.

Re:Show HN: Material Dashboard – Free Admin for Bootstrap 4,... by tomelders on Friday June 22, 2018 @11:24AM (#17374666)
The alternative is to start with basic HTML UI. Almost no styling. And build from there.

Understandably, few people like that advice because it doesn't make life easier. It does make your product better though, which is really all that matters.

Re:Show HN: Material Dashboard – Free Admin for Bootstrap 4,... by wuliwong on Friday June 22, 2018 @12:03PM (#17375024)
There are definitely alternatives to material design that is not just un-styled HTML.
Re:Show HN: Material Dashboard – Free Admin for Bootstrap 4,... by tomelders on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @10:46AM (#17408534)
But there's not alternative to starting from first principles. Material UI and all other Ui libs are a premature optimisation that will paint you into a corner.
Re:Show HN: Material Dashboard – Free Admin for Bootstrap 4,... by EugeneOZ on Saturday June 23, 2018 @08:02AM (#17380867)
Or because just few people can call untouched HTML elements design "beautiful".