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Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by ChrisSD on Thursday June 21, 2018 @07:07AM (#17363897)
To be honest, this sounds like an issue with search engines. Why are "garbage" tutorials getting high rankings in search engines? Why aren't good quality tutorials rising above them?
Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by akerro on Thursday June 21, 2018 @07:49AM (#17364201)
>Why are "garbage" tutorials getting high rankings in search engines?

Because John experiments with X for the first time and writes about it on his blog. Janette has the same problem while learning about X so she takes his code, makes a few changes and puts it on her blog. This scenario happens 8 more times and we have 10 low quality tutorials about how to do things, but none of the authors has experience and expertise in X, and they won't admit it. Bad practice is copied to many places. 1000 garbage kill 1 gold.

Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by TuringTest on Thursday June 21, 2018 @07:53AM (#17364238)
This explains why 1000 garbage tutorials are created, not why they are ranked high in the search engine.
Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by coldtea on Thursday June 21, 2018 @09:31AM (#17364902)
The same exact mechanism (and the parent already alluded to it in his comment: "Janette has the same problem while learning about X so she takes his code, makes a few changes and puts it on her blog").

Non experts look for tutorials,

They chance upon tutorials by non-experts

They don't know enough to tell they're junk

They use the code, link to, and suggest those tutorials to others

Those tutorials are getting higher ranks, attracting even more non-experts

Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by akerro on Thursday June 21, 2018 @10:12AM (#17365263)
Because search engines don't rank quality of source code and tutorial, they rank page layout, bolds, italics, font color and page speed. Literally any garbage can get to top3, you dont need to be good Ruby tutorial writer for it.
Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by nerdponx on Thursday June 21, 2018 @11:25AM (#17365995)
and they won't admit it.

There's your problem. If you are writing a "here's how I did it" post, you should be clear that you don't have any idea what you're doing.

Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by pavel_lishin on Thursday June 21, 2018 @12:43PM (#17366765)
That doesn't address the indexing problem.
Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by wruza on Thursday June 21, 2018 @07:18AM (#17363950)
Because search engines are designed to show what’s popular, not what’s correct and thorough. Search engines still cannot weigh an article’s sense, only its “pagerank”. This is an issue with people, not with a search engine.
Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by ChrisSD on Thursday June 21, 2018 @07:22AM (#17363985)
But that merely moves the question on. Why are garbage tutorials more popular than good quality tutorials?
Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by joelthelion on Thursday June 21, 2018 @07:30AM (#17364056)
Probably because people who look for tutorials are not experts, so it's hard for them to tell if a tutorial is good or not.
Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by noxToken on Thursday June 21, 2018 @08:52AM (#17364602)
Because a garbage tutorial isn't necessarily incorrect. The solution in the tutorial might be slow, inefficient, un-optimized, hacky, etc., but if it works when people have been slamming their head on the desk for hours, people will use it. It's a matter of which tutorial captured the audience first.
Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by projectramo on Thursday June 21, 2018 @11:19AM (#17365926)
I think it is just numbers.

There are many more poor quality tutorials written than high quality tutorials because high quality tutorials are much harder to write.

The writer has to know the domain, be up-to-date in the domain, have the communication skills and the time to write and edit.

Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by thanatropism on Thursday June 21, 2018 @03:09PM (#17368352)
I can speak for "data science" tutorials: there's A LOT of people saying you don't actually need to know the math!

Learning math makes you feel stupid.

Re:Learn new technology through writing a tutorial about it by KineticLensman on Thursday June 21, 2018 @12:43PM (#17366782)
Because people find them using search engines optimised for popularity (not quality) of content, as perceived by the readers, not a community of experts.