European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrous’ copyright bill

Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by andy_ppp on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @11:10AM (#17356124)

I wonder if any of these people have received campaign funding from entrenched industries that benefit from draconian copyright laws?

Having said that, GDPR has actually turned out to be a very well thought through piece of legislation - I actually agree with it's premises largely and the fact we can't take a database dump anymore and have full access to people's personal details is an extremely good thing IMO.

How Facebook are in compliance with it I have no idea as it would seem impossible to justify a lot of their more intrusive/social features.

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by Kliment on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @01:50PM (#17357764)

> I wonder if any of these people have received campaign funding from entrenched industries that benefit from draconian copyright laws?

Yes. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180531/00285739946/eu-pa...

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by edwintorok on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @03:01PM (#17358583)

Wouldn't the "link tax" have a detrimental effect on a site's Pagerank? Lets say someone writes a blogpost on site X and links to site Y, now site Y wants you to pay them for the privilege of linking to them. The blogger might just decide not to link (or save the hassle and not even ask whether they can link without paying). Over time site Y's incoming links drops as nobody is willing to link to it anymore.

Good luck with SEO under such rules, in fact it would be nice if Google then offered an easy way to filter out all the sites that require paying to link to them.

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by monsieurbanana on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @11:30AM (#17356299)

Facebook doesn't need to justify it. All they need to do is send a notice to their users asking for consent. How many of them do will read what that entails, and how many of those would decide their privacy is more important for them than facebook?

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by tom_mellior on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @11:48AM (#17356472)

My understanding is that consent is not sufficient. In addition, data collection must directly serve a legitimate business purpose. Though I guess Facebook has lawyers willing to argue that anything they do serves their core business.

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by mrmr1993 on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @12:06PM (#17356649)

My reading of it was that you need either consent or a legitimate business purpose, not both.[0]

[0]: Article 6(1), https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by tom_mellior on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @12:36PM (#17356935)

Ah, yes. Agreed.

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by andy_ppp on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @11:32AM (#17356312)

What I mean is technical issues - searching an encrypted graph database has got to be very complicated!

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by dtf on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @09:29AM (#17355133)

"It will be available once the minutes for the meeting have been compiled in the days to come." (from @EP_Legal)

https://twitter.com/EP_Legal/status/1009418817393577985

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @11:37AM (#17356366)

Here's a previous projection: https://juliareda.eu/2018/06/saveyourinternet/, looks like the EFDD switched their votes.

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by lumberjack on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @12:13PM (#17356722)

http://www.votewatch.eu/

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by tomp on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @12:29PM (#17356877)

I couldn't find the vote there... Looks like it's just the Parliament votes? (this was a committee vote)

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by Kliment on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @01:52PM (#17357787)

Here are the votes:

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/149721/juri-committee-...

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by myfonj on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @10:21AM (#17355622)

Video: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/committees/video?ev...

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by Kliment on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @01:52PM (#17357797)

Yes, here http://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/149721/juri-committee-...

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by pergadad on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @02:33PM (#17358266)

Here it is:

https://juliareda.eu/2018/06/not-giving-up/

Who voted in favour? Conservatives, social democrats, liberals and the Nazi.. uh nationalists.

Against? Greens and the left

You should be able to find the original list here, by opening the PDF for 20 June:

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/en/juri/votes-in-co...

The actual content of the amendments is here:

http://www.emeeting.europarl.europa.eu/committees/agenda/201...

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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by HumanDrivenDev on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @05:30PM (#17359967)

the Nazi.. uh nationalists.

That's not a constructive way to look at the world. It's the left-wing equivalent of claiming Obama is a Marxist. Get some perspective.

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