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Re:Uber Neglected Simulation Testing on Self-Driving Cars, I... by Karrot_Kream on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @01:57PM (#17348867)
You're severely armchair architecting here. What happens if sensors fail? How often do sensors need to be replaced? Do sensors behave well under inclement weather conditions (snow is a common source of glare). What if an emergency vehicle flashes their sirens and floods the street with light? There's a lot we don't know, and while there may be satisfying solutions to these problems, we're not there yet. In the meantime, subjecting humans to this insanity due to some "inferential evidence" that doesn't hold water is highly reckless.

Your argument is "Sensors are better than humans!", and that's a non-argument, inferential or otherwise.

Re:Uber Neglected Simulation Testing on Self-Driving Cars, I... by beat on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @02:24PM (#17349108)
I once had a retinal vein occlusion (basically, a stroke in my retina) while driving. I recognized that my vision had deteriorated and got off the road. Humans have heart attacks, strokes, seizures, and other systemic failures while driving, too.

Detecting sensor failure is child's play. We have over a half-century of experience at detecting and handling sensor failures in computer systems. Hell, I left the gas cap off my car once, and every idiot light in the car flipped out on me. Cruise control stopped working. Etc.

Detecting glare, flashing lights, and other visual interference is likewise well-established technology. And how does the autonomous car respond? By slowing down, staying within safe parameters. Meanwhile, one of the most common causes of fatal accidents is humans driving too fast for conditions, often due to poor visibility. I trust the self-driving car more than the human driver for that.

Re:Uber Neglected Simulation Testing on Self-Driving Cars, I... by vntok on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @02:18PM (#17349065)
Do you seriously think that the much qualified software engineers and other specialists working on these projects are not thinking through all these points?

There's a lot of problems we don't know the solutions to, but that certainly does not mean that these teams don't know the solutions either.

Re:Uber Neglected Simulation Testing on Self-Driving Cars, I... by thousandautumns on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @03:20PM (#17349539)
> Do you seriously think that the much qualified software engineers and other specialists working on these projects are not thinking through all these points?

You are commenting in a thread about how a team of those "much qualified software engineers and other specialists" failed to do simulation testing. So yes, there is reason to believe that these companies are failing to address many of these potential problems.

Re:Uber Neglected Simulation Testing on Self-Driving Cars, I... by w_t_payne on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @03:28PM (#17349607)
I know a lot of people working in the space who know very well what (some of) the problems are -- but are unable to do anything about it because of organisational politics. :-(