Re:Beijing Wants to Rewrite the Rules of the Internet
by unethical_ban on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @11:26AM
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Welcome the free world to play with our toys. It is all-or-nothing. You can't stop math.
Re:Beijing Wants to Rewrite the Rules of the Internet
by iforgotpassword on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @11:38AM
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Too bad everyone thinks they are the true free world and everyone else got it wrong.
Re:Beijing Wants to Rewrite the Rules of the Internet
by phicoh on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @11:47AM
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With end-to-end encryption it is easy to tell: the free world is where end-to-end encryption is unrestricted.
Re:Beijing Wants to Rewrite the Rules of the Internet
by peterwwillis on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @01:38PM
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Actually the free world is all non-Communist countries. It's a propaganda term invented by the west (literally they were interchangeable, "free world" and "western world"). You can still see this influence as the use of the phrase "the leader of the free world" is exclusively held for the President of the United States.
The "free world" as a broader idea is still kind of useless in the modern world. Your government may not have made end-to-end encryption illegal (yet) but as private corporations actually run everything that people use, they get to impose their own will and determine your practical "freedom". There's no law preventing Apple from changing its encryption technology.
Re:Beijing Wants to Rewrite the Rules of the Internet
by Analemma_ on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @12:02PM
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This is just boosterism and willfully ignoring the facts. Of course you can stop math: you just Balkanize the internet and jail people inside the wall who don't follow the rules. Which is what China is doing.
If protocols and services were designed instead to allow a measure of control at a high level, these nations could still do all the things they're going to do anyway, but allow the internet to remain open. For example, data wouldn't need to remain within a nation's borders if the nation still had control over it, at least within their own networks. They wouldn't have to create their own Facebook if they could manipulate Facebook inside their borders. You could still have cooperative compatible services, with controls where they were required.
I guess it's western ideals that make these suggestions sound horrible. But different countries are going to work differently - the fracturing of the internet and laws governing its use is the proof of that. You can choose your response: pick up your toys and go home, or make concessions so that everyone can use the same toys.