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Re:Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging ... by brightball on Monday June 18, 2018 @11:24PM (#17343574)
You did see him launch his car into space, right?
Re:Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging ... by neotek on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @12:42AM (#17343897)
So? You couldn't have illustrated my point any better: Musk is a showman, he's great at drumming up PR but not so great at actually running a profitable business or hitting any of the milestones he constantly promises he'll hit.
Re:Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging ... by kbenson on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @02:12AM (#17344197)
I think the point is that he's the CEO of both companies, and some of his wild claims were about building, launching and recovering rockets. Are we supposed to ignore SpaceX and just look at Tesla when considering Musk? You may consider that being a showman, and it was, but it was also showing his ability to delivery on some of his promises of rocket reusability.

Anyone basing their opinion of Musk purely on his role and publicity from one of these companies when they are both so very public is the height of confirmation bias, in either direction.

Re:Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging ... by Rebelgecko on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @02:31AM (#17344249)
Yes, although it turns out their stream was using fake footage for one of the boosters
Re:Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging ... by dotancohen on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @02:48AM (#17344311)
This is the closest that I've ever felt the need to call someone an idiot on the internet. Both boosters' feeds were fed from the same booster, i.e. we were seeing the same image twice. That is _not_ fake.
Re:Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging ... by Rebelgecko on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @04:06AM (#17344606)
The footage itself was real video from a real camera, but the announcers said the footage was something different than it actually was. The YouTube _recording_ of the livestream was also edited after the fact without any mention that it no longer reflected the originally broadcast. While technically not 100% fake, I think at the very least it would be fair to call that misleading. If this is the closest you've ever come to calling someone on the internet an idiot, I applaud you for your restraint.
Re:Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging ... by dotancohen on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @06:51AM (#17354126)
> I think at the very least it would be fair to call that misleading

You imply intent. There was no intent to deceive.