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Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by skookumchuck on Monday June 18, 2018 @06:16PM (#17342062)
> Is Bill Gates self-made?

Yes.

> Or was it the fact that his father could cut a $25,000 check on a whim?

There are millions of Americans like that, and only one Bill Gates.

There's no evidence, either, that his father bought the success of Microsoft. The early success of Microsoft did not require anything more than rather trivial amounts of cash.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by code_duck on Thursday June 21, 2018 @02:02AM (#17362514)
His father was a partner in a top Seattle law firm and his mother is a regent of the University of Washington and a director of Pacific Northwest Bell. You think that didn't give him any business advantages other talented programmers didn't have?

His mother is credited in her obituary with pulling strings to get him the IBM contract: https://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/11/obituaries/mary-gates-64-...

"Her tenure on the national board's executive committee is believed to have helped Microsoft, based in Seattle, at a crucial time. In 1980, she discussed with John R. Opel, a fellow committee member who was the chairman of the International Business Machines Corporation, the business that I.B.M. was doing with Microsoft.

Mr. Opel, by some accounts, mentioned Mrs. Gates to other I.B.M. executives. A few weeks later, I.B.M. took a chance by hiring Microsoft, then a small software firm, to develop an operating system for its first personal computer."

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by bsder on Monday June 18, 2018 @08:44PM (#17342872)
Sure, Microsoft was on a nice trajectory, and there is no doubt that Bill Gates is smart.

However, that $25K check is the difference between Microsoft being a solidly growing company up against someone else that IBM anointed vs Microsoft is the anointed one.

$25K was about 5x the price of a car at the time. That makes it about $150K in modern dollars.

How many people can cut a $150K cash check because their kid says it's a good idea? Even most "millionaires" can't cut a check for cash at that level.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by skookumchuck on Monday June 18, 2018 @09:02PM (#17342959)
Starting a restaurant easily can cost $25K in those days. Yet people did it all the time.

Don't overlook that Microsoft was IBM's second choice. Their first was Digital Research.

And lastly, I haven't been able to find any evidence that Gates Sr. funded Microsoft with at $25,000 check. Citation needed! Certainly there's no mention in the book "Hard Drive", and my recollection is that he started MS with $5,000.

There's nothing Bill Gates did at the time that a very, very large number of people could have done, if they'd only thought of it and had been willing to risk it. I knew many computer people at the time, and they dismissed PCs as toys and saw no future in them. Including many who had money to invest in such a startup.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by s73v3r_ on Monday June 18, 2018 @06:41PM (#17342213)
That amount of cash is not trivial for the vast majority of Americans.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by skookumchuck on Monday June 18, 2018 @07:14PM (#17342395)
Millions can do it, rendering the notion that that was what enabled Bill Gates to be a zillionaire absurd.

And then there are all those millions buying houses for over $500,000, and $30,000+ cars, who could invest $25,000 in a business instead. But that's why they aren't Bill Gates - they made different choices.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by ericd on Monday June 18, 2018 @08:18PM (#17342744)
There are vastly more people with access to $25k in cash than there are people who end up making an impact as large as Gates had. It still takes an enormous amount of work and savvy to pull off what he did.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by skookumchuck on Monday June 18, 2018 @08:26PM (#17342789)
Gates seemed to be the only one who understood the value of DOS initially. Not you, not I, not Gary Kildall, not IBM, not Tim Paterson.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by code_duck on Thursday June 21, 2018 @02:05AM (#17362535)
There were thousands of other people involved in the industry at the time. Many of them understood the future value of personal computer operating systems.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by petra on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @12:49AM (#17343934)
Any idea how he got to that unique understanding? Is that something we can learn from?
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by btilly on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @12:47PM (#17348240)
If you read http://gunkies.org/wiki/Gordon_Letwin_OS/2_usenet_post closely you'll understand the key business insight about the value of platforms that underlay a lot of Microsoft's success. And further see how Microsoft's continued success required a series of good decisions that capitalized on the famous lucky break.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by skookumchuck on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @01:48AM (#17344096)
If I knew how, I'd be a billionaire myself :-)
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by s73v3r_ on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @11:55AM (#17347823)
Sure. But if he didn't have access to that money, would he still have been able to do that?
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by skookumchuck on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @03:13PM (#17349473)
Yes. An aggressive entrepreneur like Gates would be able to rustle up a few paltry thousand in investment capital. People do it all the time.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by kamaal on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @12:34PM (#17348143)
That is a necessary but not a sufficient condition.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by code_duck on Thursday June 21, 2018 @02:06AM (#17362538)
His personal connections and family wealth were a lot more significant than one loan.