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Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by jjoonathan on Monday June 18, 2018 @02:10PM (#17340316)
> Rather, it's a result of the depth of the value we provide

The market's notion of value is weighted by wealth and therefore so far from the everyday or philosophical notions of value that it hardly deserves the term. Example: finding a reason to deny someone's health insurance claim is "valuable", feeding a starving poor person is not.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by aeternus on Monday June 18, 2018 @04:20PM (#17341368)
> feeding a starving poor person is not.

Monsanto has made plenty of money feeding the world, including poor people. The key is to do it at scale. Even though some of their tactics and products are controversial, they have probably made the most headway in eliminating hunger as any other organization in history.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by jjoonathan on Monday June 18, 2018 @05:36PM (#17341873)
The fact that the market places near-zero value on feeding poor people rather than exactly zero is not a ringing endorsement of its priorities.

Also, I'm not at all sure the value proposition they see in being charitable in the tail of their price grading (i.e. no terminator genes) is market-driven. It could quite plausibly be driven by fear of government intervention -- or even, possibly, compassion.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by ttoinou on Monday June 18, 2018 @03:14PM (#17340870)

   the everyday or philosophical notions of value that it hardly deserves the term
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_theory_of_value

> instead value is determined by the importance an acting individual places on a good for the achievement of his desired ends

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/value

> The regard that something is held to deserve; the importance, worth, or usefulness of something

Seems to fit

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by IggleSniggle on Monday June 18, 2018 @07:10PM (#17342379)
I’m not sure I understand your comment. Do you mean to say that you think the market’s notion of value DOES align with the importance acting individuals place on a good / importance worth or usefulness of something?

How could this possibly be true when the majority of wealth is held by a minority of individuals?

It’s contradictory. A majority of people are incapable of expressing their values through wealth dispersion. If you assume that wealth dispersion is an expression of value, then by definition wealthy individuals are disproportionately able to express value.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by ttoinou on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @04:02AM (#17344588)

  How could this possibly be true when the majority of wealth is held by a minority of individuals?
You went from value to wealth too fast. And this catchy sentence is only true because some statistical institution said so. Read De Soto about dead capital : http://www.thepowerofthepoor.com/concepts/c6.php

> The developed world has devised a formal property system of titles, title registries, and inclusive property law that includes real estate used for homes or businesses. We in the West take that system for granted, probably because it is invisible to us. De Soto shows that this is in a large part why some nations are rich while others remain in poverty.

   then by definition wealthy individuals are disproportionately able to express value
How do you think "everyone able to fairly able to express it's own value" would work ?
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by IggleSniggle on Tuesday June 26, 2018 @10:07PM (#17405304)
> How do you think "everyone able to fairly able to express it's own value" would work ?

I don't believe this is possible; it seemed like that might be what you were suggesting. I wasn't sure what point you were trying to make with your links and "seems to fit" comment in response to the "markets notion of value" correlating to wealth, but I also wasn't sure that I was correctly interpreting your comment.