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Re:Americans are wallowing in decline by iouytgyhjk on Monday September 27, 2010 @06:53PM (#1733832)
"United States deployed force .... has done so in support of "worthy causes all over the planet," whether stopping genocide or promoting democracy in the Middle East.

Was this supposed to be ironic? The US like every other country has deployed force to get what it wants, to stop an enemy or to please it's own voters. Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Grenada (in fact most of central america), Cuba, Iraq (1 and 2), Afghanistan (1 and 2) were not about promoting democracy.

Re:Americans are wallowing in decline by jbarham on Monday September 27, 2010 @07:24PM (#1733931)
FYI, Korea is divided into two countries, North Korea and South Korea. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out which one is a dynastic totalitarian Stalinist state in which millions of its citizens have starved in the past 20 years, and which one has an ongoing US military presence.
Re:Americans are wallowing in decline by gamble on Monday September 27, 2010 @09:09PM (#1734210)
South Korea was a often-brutal military dictatorship until the late 1980s. The US was there to stop Communism, not foster democracy. If South Korea is a better place today, it's because of the Koreans themselves far more than the US.
Re:Americans are wallowing in decline by jbarham on Monday September 27, 2010 @11:10PM (#1734416)
> If South Korea is a better place today, it's because of the Koreans themselves far more than the US.

Agreed. Which makes the inability of the North Koreans to escape from under their repressive regime all the more tragic.

Re:Americans are wallowing in decline by omd on Monday September 27, 2010 @11:45PM (#1734486)
Here's another exercise: In the past 20 years, how many millions of citizens has the US killed in the other 6 countries that were mentioned?
Re:Americans are wallowing in decline by iouytgyhjk on Monday September 27, 2010 @08:08PM (#1734061)
Was the war to prevent that or was that a result of the war ?

The UK left Hong Kong without a fight and handed it over to another undemocratic communist state - the result doesn't seem to have been quite as bad

Re:Americans are wallowing in decline by anamax on Monday September 27, 2010 @09:12PM (#1734216)
Was the gap between HK and mainland China increasing or decreasing before the handover? What about now?